At 09:43 PM 03/09/97 GMT, you wrote: I don't know if you could call it common, however I do know that the Mac 512 had it, as well as the Mac Classic (i don't think the original Mac or the later Mac 128 had a signed case, but I could be wrong). A funny story I heard about these sigs is that on at least one (if not all), Jobs sig is large and right in the middle while Woz's is down in the corner. However a seam or vent ran through Jobs and all but made it unreadable :) I always assumed that the Mac Plus was unsigned, but I guess your machine has proved me wrong (I should dig out that long torx screwdriver and get inside of mine again) Is there a list somewhere naming all of the signed Macs? And how many other computers had signed cases? I think its great that these early machines were produced with signed cases, it shows a pride in the workmanship, as well as the simplicity of design when you could fit all of the important names on the inside of a computer case. Try that with todays wintel boxes (as if they would want to be 'fingered' as the culprits ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________Live from the GLRS The Man From D.A.D ----------------------------------------------------------------