Well, assuming you're talking about a PWS-500au they're about $2k without any licenses. I got real lucky a few weeks ago and picked up a -433a with a 4D40T graphics card, 64MB RAM, and a 2GB UW SCSI HD. I managed to get it for $700, and then proceeded to add 256MB RAM, replaced the 4D40T with a 3D30 (aka Elsa Gloria Synergy), a SCSI 4x CD-ROM, and a TLZ-06 4mm tape drive. I also did the conversion from a -433a to a -433au myself, OpenVMS really screams on this sucker! If you get an old enough -500a the conversion to a -500au might be fairly easy. In any cast to convert a 'a' to a 'au' you'll need the following: Supported SCSI Card (you can't use any old SCSI card) Supported Video Card SCSI HD and probably SCSI CD-ROM Flash it with the latest ARC/SRM (if you get the kit from Compaq to do this you apparently also get a 'au' nameplate) Of course what I really want is something like a 667Mhz DS20E Workstation with a PowerStorm 330, but I think I can live with what I've got, for the time being. Zane