There is a 50/50 chance that I will have time tonight to go down to the datacenter late afternoon/early evening to do the next part of the list server upgrade. If so, the list server (and the classic computer related websites it also hosts) would be down hard for at least an hour. After it comes back up, there will likely be a lot of squirrelyness (is that a word?) for a few hours afterwards as I find all the little gotchas I forgot to address. May not do it tonight, kinda depends on some other variables, but if I DO get to do it tonight I wanted to let folks know. Damn upgrade is taking time away from my HP2000 restoration *GRIN* Jay West