Building a better "old" computer - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

25 Jun 2000

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 Even better.. Today you could use one of the modern
chips (pentium) to emulate
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 the Z80, probably at unheard of speeds, with full
access to all the internal
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 registers (after all the pentium would be keeping those
registers in memory
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 somewhere..) 

You could and then you have one of the Z80 emulators.

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 Using original parts we may not be able to make a
better computer than then, but
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 using modern parts, perhaps we can make it smaller and
faster, even using a Z80
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 memory is denser (and cheaper) today than then, right?
<imho> 

using a standard Z84C010 (cmos 10mhz) and common cache rams I could
easily do a z80 1mb 10mhz machine.  It's not hard.  Use a Z180S00 and
33mhz
is possible.  With cheap, dense fast static memory most of the old
designs
get real simple and can go faster.  The best example is a proto I've
build using
a Z84C50 (z80/10mhz with clock + wait state management, 1k ram) in a
clone
of the amproLB using static ram (eliminates 15 DIPS) making is a fairly
bare
board.  It runs at 8mhz due to limits in the SIO and CTC parts I had.  I
wanted
it to run the same boot and BIOS so I used what I had.

If I were to do the latest and greatest I'd go with Z380 as it will run
Z80 native
and make the IO a z180 slave, then the only limits would eb the how fast
can
the Z380 go (20mhz is common part and it executes Z80 instructions in
about
half the clocks).

Allison

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Ernest wrote:

> Based on what the current computer industry knows about building computers,
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 > would it be possible to build a better Z80 based
computer today, using the
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 > same chips that the builders in, say, 1979 had
available?
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> I heard someone say that the manufacturers did the best they could with what
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 > they had to work with "back then," and I
started to wonder if we could do it
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 > better today. Has our understanding of how it all
works improved enough to
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   do it better
now, using the same chips, etc.?

 Just curious,

 Ernest 