30 Jun
2002
30 Jun
'02
6:04 a.m.
Maybe it's time to drag my two Lisa 1's out of storage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033627836
And the reserve isn't even met yet!
/mpm
1 Jul
1 Jul
6:43 a.m.
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Michael Maginnis wrote:
Maybe it's time to drag my two Lisa 1's out of
storage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033627836
And the reserve isn't even met yet!
The reserve was met at $10,000, which is exactly the value that I would
place on a working Lisa 1 of this caliber, with the accessories included.
I know of around maybe a dozen in existence now (with you having two that
brings the total up :)
I need to start a Lisa 1 registry. Who's got one (or two)?
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7:46 a.m.
Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Michael Maginnis wrote:
wow. i had no idea they were THAT wanted... i knew they were popular,
but... mine are a little dirtier than the one he listed, but were in
working condition at last check (about 3 months ago), and have most of
the accessories his had.
reserve wasn't met when i posted - but it had to be moderator-approved
cause of the url...
Maybe it's time to drag my two Lisa 1's
out of storage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033627836
And the reserve isn't even met yet!
The reserve was met at $10,000, which is exactly the value that I would
place on a working Lisa 1 of this caliber, with the accessories included.
I know of around maybe a dozen in existence now (with you having two that
brings the total up :)
I need to start a Lisa 1 registry. Who's got one (or two)?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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9:01 a.m.
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Michael Maginnis wrote:
wow. i had no idea they were THAT wanted... i knew
they were popular,
but... mine are a little dirtier than the one he listed, but were in
working condition at last check (about 3 months ago), and have most of
the accessories his had.
They represent the genesis of the Mac as well as the birth of the GUI in
the consumer market (the Xerox 8010 beat the Lisa by 2 years but that
found its way only into business installations).
The Lisa represents one of the most glorious flops of the computer age,
but has a lot of significance as a progenitor of what a lot of us use for
computers today.
Combined with the relative rarity of finding a Lisa 1 intact and
working, in my opinion, it is THAT significant. As far as I know, there
are less Lisa 1's than Apple 1's. My guess is that over time we'll start
to see more and more Lisa 1's come out of the woodwork as word gets around
that they're selling for $10K on eBay, and their value will drop.
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10:47 p.m.
I'm a huge Lisa fan (and have a Lisa 2/10)...I would love to have a Lisa
1, but my wallet won't allow for paying ridiculous prices for one. If
they ever do drop in price I'll be tempted to bid on it...but it's a
close one...would I rather have an Altair or Lisa?
-Chandra
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From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Sellam Ismail
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 5:01 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: And, the insanity continues
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Michael Maginnis wrote:
wow. i had no idea they were THAT wanted... i knew
they were popular,
but... mine are a little dirtier than the one he listed, but were in
working condition at last check (about 3 months ago), and have most of
the accessories his had.
They represent the genesis of the Mac as well as the birth of the GUI in
the consumer market (the Xerox 8010 beat the Lisa by 2 years but that
found its way only into business installations).
The Lisa represents one of the most glorious flops of the computer age,
but has a lot of significance as a progenitor of what a lot of us use
for
computers today.
Combined with the relative rarity of finding a Lisa 1 intact and
working, in my opinion, it is THAT significant. As far as I know, there
are less Lisa 1's than Apple 1's. My guess is that over time we'll
start
to see more and more Lisa 1's come out of the woodwork as word gets
around
that they're selling for $10K on eBay, and their value will drop.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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2 Jul
2 Jul
1:40 a.m.
Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Michael Maginnis wrote:
maybe i'll clean them up for the next vcf - assuming there is one. i
just finished checking out the first one - boots smoothly to office
system on the profile drive. both twiggy drives seem to be stable as
well. image is clean and crisp (at least a clean and crisp as it's going
to get on a lisa).
mike
wow. i had no idea they were THAT wanted... i
knew they were popular,
but... mine are a little dirtier than the one he listed, but were in
working condition at last check (about 3 months ago), and have most of
the accessories his had.
They represent the genesis of the Mac as well as the birth of the GUI in
the consumer market (the Xerox 8010 beat the Lisa by 2 years but that
found its way only into business installations).
The Lisa represents one of the most glorious flops of the computer age,
but has a lot of significance as a progenitor of what a lot of us use for
computers today.
Combined with the relative rarity of finding a Lisa 1 intact and
working, in my opinion, it is THAT significant. As far as I know, there
are less Lisa 1's than Apple 1's. My guess is that over time we'll start
to see more and more Lisa 1's come out of the woodwork as word gets around
that they're selling for $10K on eBay, and their value will drop.
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1 Jul
1 Jul
12:40 p.m.
On Mon, 2002-07-01 at 14:43, Sellam Ismail wrote:
I need to start a Lisa 1 registry. Who's got one (or two)?
You can add me to your registry, although it's non-operable at the
present time. Time to crack it open I think.
Jeff
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6:52 a.m.
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Michael Maginnis wrote:
Maybe it's time to drag my two Lisa 1's out of
storage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033627836
And the reserve isn't even met yet!
The seller (lenny15) has had a ton of early Apple ][ and Lisa stuff up for
sale in the past month. My guess is that he bought out the crusty old
inventory of a former Apple dealer.
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2 Jul
2 Jul
12:57 a.m.
I always wondered about lenny15 and where he gets his stuff...He has
some really neat (and sometimes rare) Apple items for sale
consistently...he also commands some premium pricing! (and gets it) :-(
He seems like a nice enough guy...he helped me out with a couple of
questions on my Lisa 2/10.
-Chandra
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On Behalf Of Sellam Ismail
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:52 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: And, the insanity continues
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Michael Maginnis wrote:
Maybe it's time to drag my two Lisa 1's out of
storage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033627836
And the reserve isn't even met yet!
The seller (lenny15) has had a ton of early Apple ][ and Lisa stuff up
for
sale in the past month. My guess is that he bought out the crusty old
inventory of a former Apple dealer.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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1:20 a.m.
I always wondered about lenny15 and where he gets his
stuff...He has
some really neat (and sometimes rare) Apple items for sale
consistently...he also commands some premium pricing! (and gets it) :-(
He seems like a nice enough guy...he helped me out with a couple of
questions on my Lisa 2/10.
I've had mixed results with dealing with him. I've bought a
couple of things from him but when I was looking for a CPU board with
original Lisa boot and videostate ROMs he would never give a definate
answer or close the deal. The things I did get from him worked out
good though and were in nice shape. I've always thought the
LisaVision kits he was selling looked interesting.
Jeff
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9:55 a.m.
On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 08:57, Chandra Bajpai wrote:
I always wondered about lenny15 and where he gets his
stuff...He has
some really neat (and sometimes rare) Apple items for sale
consistently...he also commands some premium pricing! (and gets it) :-(
He's a good guy. I've dealt with him "offline" for some Lisa and NeXT
parts in the past, and he's more than reasonable with prices (he
practically gave me a 1.8A Lisa PSU, Lisa Parallel card, and some
various case pieces). It's the glutons on E-bay that hike his prices
up.
Jeff
He seems like a nice enough guy...he helped me out with a couple of
questions on my Lisa 2/10.
-Chandra
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Sellam Ismail
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:52 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: And, the insanity continues
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Michael Maginnis wrote:
Maybe it's time to drag my two Lisa 1's
out of storage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033627836
And the reserve isn't even met yet!
The seller (lenny15) has had a ton of early Apple ][ and Lisa stuff up
for
sale in the past month. My guess is that he bought out the crusty old
inventory of a former Apple dealer.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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11:34 a.m.
I have dealt with John (lenny15) both as a buyer and a seller for almost
two years. He's one of the best ebay people out there. Check out his
site, http://www.vintagemicros.com
James
Chandra Bajpai wrote:
I always wondered about lenny15 and where he gets his
stuff...He has
some really neat (and sometimes rare) Apple items for sale
consistently...he also commands some premium pricing! (and gets it) :-(
He seems like a nice enough guy...he helped me out with a couple of
questions on my Lisa 2/10.
-Chandra
12:41 p.m.
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, James Rice wrote:
I have dealt with John (lenny15) both as a buyer and a
seller for almost
two years. He's one of the best ebay people out there. Check out his
site, http://www.vintagemicros.com
Where does he get his inventory from?
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4:31 p.m.
Quothe Sellam Ismail, from writings of Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 05:41:39PM -0700:
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, James Rice wrote:
Is he that guy who goes to hamfests and makes an offer for everything
Apple that a vendor has? I was at one hamfest where someone did that,
while I was looking at something, and the vendor wouldn't even let me
purchase the system that I'd picked up to buy (before that offer was
made)... I regret not "accidentally" dropping the system onto the
asphalt and someone's toes. "Here, you want this too? [start to hand
it too the greedy *&#!$@%]... Ooops! Sorry about your toes."
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I have dealt with John (lenny15) both as a buyer
and a seller for almost
two years. He's one of the best ebay people out there. Check out his
site, http://www.vintagemicros.com
Where does he get his inventory from? 
1 Jul
1 Jul
9:10 a.m.
Michael Maginnis wrote:
Maybe it's time to drag my two Lisa 1's out of storage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033627836
And the reserve isn't even met yet!
/mpm
I just saw that the 'winner' paid $10k.
This all proves that P.T. Barnum was right when he said, "There's a
sucker born every minute."
At least that sucker will never be me. Not to that price anyway.
Gary Hildebrand
St. Joseph, MO
12:38 p.m.
I'll hand on to mine, maybe just a little while longer. =)
Jeff
On Sun, 2002-06-30 at 14:04, Michael Maginnis wrote:
Maybe it's time to drag my two Lisa 1's out of
storage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033627836
And the reserve isn't even met yet!
/mpm
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