Me neither, in theory. But even the cheapest of CRTs could usually autosync to a video signal without putting half a character - or sometimes more - off the edge of the visible display, something I regularly find "modern" flatscreens doing. And this is when connected to peecees, too. And I have a CRT that's willing to sync to a much-too-wide video signal, just squashing it down. It doesn't look good, but it mostly works; text is legible, for example. Modern flatscreens usually display nothing, or at most an "I can't display this" box, instead of doing something sensible with such input. And CRTs could sync to a signal within a frame or two. In my experience, LCDs generally take more like a second, which makes a substantial difference when I'm trying to catch sight of something that come and goes quickly. And a CRT switching from a given signal to the same signal but with a phase glitch because the video hardware got reset typically just jumps for a few tens of milliseconds. LCDs typically do a full "resync to the signal" operation, displaying nothing for several hundred milliseconds. And don't get me started on the way LCDs insist on damaging perfectly good video signals by scaling, rather than letterboxing. I have one - ONE - flatscreen that can be told to letterbox rather than scale. (CRTs generally scaled, but the result wasn't as damaging to the result as it is on LCDs.) And even when scaling - when displaying an 1152x900 signal on a 1920x1080 CRT, it just stretched; when I tried it on an LCD, I typically wound up with something like 1/4 of the display completely off-screen, with no way to manually adjust it back on. Yes, it was a crappy LCD, but crappy CRTs got it righter than that. Or how hard a time I had getting a 1920x1080 LCD to sync to a 1920x1080 signal from my SS20. This sort of thing Just Worked on CRTs. In short, find me flatscreens with the functionality of my CRTs and then we can talk about trashing the CRTs. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

________________________________ From: Brent Hilpert <hilpert at cs.ubc.ca> On 2012 Jul 3, at 5:26 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: I'm just in the process of disposing of two of them (apple- and sun-badged 19" sonys) (scavenging a few? components like high-voltage transistors before they go), along with a few other CRTs/monitors to get rid of. C: Not all Sony GDM's were created equal. The IBM badged units I have were superior to the rest. Believe me. The demise of CRTs is not something I'm crying over, although there is a nostalgia factor to green and amber monochrome phosphor. I suppose someday there will be for a color CRT too, but I'm not? there yet. C: So why cry over the demise of anything??? I still have my (coverless, otherwise nearly complete) Cheap VGA Book, which was ridiculously named. It described how to utilize large crt workstation monitors, although I personally was unsuccessful at finding anything under 48khz, and even those were rare. Never found a 32-36khz monitor. Thems were the things to have back in the day. If I walked into thrift show or a swap meet and saw one (also a pitifully rare occurrence), I'd nearly swoon. ?Everyone I know wanted a big monitor. 2000$ for a multisync was unjustifiable by everyone but businesses and graphic professionals. I'm trying to fenagle a deal w/mom so I don't have to throw these out. Stick em in the old shed or something. ?I cry over the demise of the big beautiful black and white monitor myself. The first I ever obtained was w/a used Mac II. Can't remember the name. Noticeable screen burn, but still sharp as a tack!