9 Mar
1999
9 Mar
'99
8:38 a.m.
Hi all,
Somebody offered me this two pieces "cheap". Anybody on the list knows what
exactly they are ? Which Processor they use ? Operating systems ?
Pointer to any documentation ?
thanks a lot & sorry, if being off topic (but the price let me think that
they are old enough).
emanuel
9 Mar
9 Mar
8:54 a.m.
Subject: OT ? IBM AS400/9404 & HP9000/832
Somebody offered me this two pieces "cheap".
Anybody on the list knows what
exactly they are ? Which Processor they use ? Operating systems ?
Pointer to any documentation ?
9000/832 is a PA-RISC based HP-UX machine, 30 MHz clock (which is pretty slow).
The memory boards are not HP proprietary, and the machine can take a *lot* of memory
(up to about 720 MB, if I recall correctly)
It's the size of a two drawer file cabinet and is fairly heavy. Normally, there's
an internal
HP DDS ("DAT") drive and one or more internal HPIB disk drives. Oh
yes...it's an HPIB system,
although it supports a SCSI addon card, I think.
Note: if it comes with nothing at all in the way of software, you can
ask HP for HP-UX 10.20 for free. See:
http://www.hp.com/esy/systems_networking/systems/services/upgrade_free_plus…
Documentation? Try: http://docs.hp.com/
Stan Sieler
sieler(a)allegro.com
10:55 a.m.
Stan Sieler wrote about the HP 9000/832:
The memory boards are not HP proprietary,
I assume that by this you meant that there are third parties making compatible
RAM boards? Because it's certainly not the case that you can just throw in
old SIMMs or DRAM chips that you have lying around.
Note: if it comes with nothing at all in the way of
software, you can
ask HP for HP-UX 10.20 for free. See:
http://www.hp.com/esy/systems_networking/systems/services/upgrade_free_plus…
Thanks for pointing this out. I've browsed around from there some, and I
can't figure out *how* to actually order the upgrade. Any hints will
be welcomed.
Eric
11:32 a.m.
New subject: HP9000/832 & HP-UX 10.20 update (was something else)
Stan Sieler wrote about the HP 9000/832:
Yes. Kelly Computer Systems made some for it, and I think a German memory company made
some, too.
And you're right, ordinary old memory won't work.
As for getting HP-UX 10.20, I forgot how one can wander around in
twisty little passages all different... go to:
http://www.hp.com/esy/systems_networking/systems/services/upgrade_instruct.…
Click on those little "Section 1" and Section 2" links, and the "Sign
one Software License
Agreement" link.
BTW, I had no fancy proof of purchase, nor any other HP provided paperwork.
I sent them the model and serial number off the back of the my HP 9000s. For
"proof of purchase" I did two things: (1) for one computer, sent a copy of
the surplus store receipt where I'd bought the thing (WeirdStuff Warehouse);
and (2) for the other computer, sent a letter stating I'd bought it used from
someone.
Stan Sieler
sieler(a)allegro.com
The memory boards are not HP proprietary,
I assume that by this you meant that there are third parties making compatible
RAM boards? Because it's certainly not the case that you can just throw in
10:50 a.m.
Emanuel wrote:
Somebody offered me this two pieces "cheap".
Anybody on the list knows what
exactly they are ? Which Processor they use ? Operating systems ?
Pointer to any documentation ?
I have an HP 90000/832. It uses an PA-RISC 1.0 processor and runs HP/UX.
I don't have any docs.
The AS/400 runs OS/400. It might use either a proprietary processor
designed specifically for the AS/400, or it might use a special variant
of a PowerPC RISC. I don't know how to tell from the model number.
10 Mar
10 Mar
3:02 a.m.
The AS/400 runs OS/400. It might use either a
proprietary processor
designed specifically for the AS/400, or it might use a special variant
of a PowerPC RISC. I don't know how to tell from the model number.
Likely an older one, as the new ones running the PowerAS chips are still
quite valuable (hell, they still make 'em!).
AS/400s are probably the best database boxes around, never break, never
crash, and have a bizzare CISC architecture that makes the VAX look like a
SPARC, but alas, are probably the most unhackable machines on the planet.
IBM made them to play by IBM's rules, and no one elses. Linux/400 is
unlikely, to say the least!
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
6:43 a.m.
William Donzelli wrote:
While they *generally* do't croak, our AS/400/9406-5xx (model 740) with the
latest OS/400 finally had a crash the other day, requiring a full (with power
still on) user reset. First time for everything I guess. RPG/400 is definitely
a brain burner though, especially if you're used to COBOL.
IBM has a 400 site up at http://www.as400.ibm.com/home.htm and there are tons
of related newsgroups and other sites on the 400's as well. The AS/400e series
are the newest verions and our 9406-5xx etup like we have it in the "400e"
series retails around $1.3mil from IBM. Not sure what size the 9404 is but
I'll have to look it up at work tonight
The AS/400
runs OS/400. It might use either a proprietary processor
designed specifically for the AS/400, or it might use a special variant
of a PowerPC RISC. I don't know how to tell from the model number.
Likely an older one, as the new ones running the PowerAS chips are still
quite valuable (hell, they still make 'em!).
AS/400s are probably the best database boxes around, never break, never
crash, and have a bizzare CISC architecture that makes the VAX look like a
SPARC, but alas, are probably the most unhackable machines on the planet.
IBM made them to play by IBM's rules, and no one elses. Linux/400 is
unlikely, to say the least!
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