28 Jul
2004
28 Jul
'04
3:56 p.m.
Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote:
Teo> .... I would also like to know what
Teo> affect printable adhesive labels have on media...
I have a simpler rule for those: "just say NO".
So how is one supposed to label recorded CDs then? There needs to
be some way to identify which CD-R contains what...
MS
28 Jul
28 Jul
4:07 p.m.
I just write on the top of the CD with a fine tip permanent marker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Sokolov" <msokolov(a)ivan.harhan.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Article on data rot on CD's
Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote:
Teo> .... I would also like to know what
Teo> affect printable adhesive labels have on media...
I have a simpler rule for those: "just say NO".
So how is one supposed to label recorded CDs then? There needs to
be some way to identify which CD-R contains what...
MS 
4:24 p.m.
Paul Koning wrote:
If you want to be really picky about it, TDK makes (or more likely
badges) a felt-tip media marker. It's about $3USD, and the one I have
has lasted several hundred CDRs. I can't remember whether I bought it
at CompUSA or Best Buy.
It smells just like a Sharpie. ;)
Doc
>>>>"Ashley" == Ashley Carder <wacarder(a)usit.net> writes:
Ashley> I just write on the top of the CD with a fine tip permanent
Ashley> marker.
That's what the media manufacturers recommend. It's the only safe way
in my view. 
4:16 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Sokolov" <msokolov(a)ivan.harhan.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Article on data rot on CD's
Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote:
I have 100's if not 1000 cds containing data and music that work fine with
labels attached. I haven't had a problem with vibrations even on 52x cdrom
drives. Some of the discs go back to the mid 90's.
I used to use the stick-it-right labels, but they are rare these days so I
use a bunch that were made by IBM. Using an applicator that centers the
label is important, I wouldn't eyeball it by hand.
The only cdr that failed that I remember was a highly used (and scratched)
backup copy of windows 95.
Teo> .... I would also like to know what
Teo> affect printable adhesive labels have on media...
I have a simpler rule for those: "just say NO".
So how is one supposed to label recorded CDs then? There needs to
be some way to identify which CD-R contains what...
MS
7:44 p.m.
Just to add my "me too's"...
Buddy of mine has had bad experiences w/ labels. Some brand of CDR
(probably cheap ones) was fine w/ out a label, but as soon as he put his
(also probably cheap) label on it the CDR turned into a frisbee. (Shrug
- I now avoid labels.)
I've also noted that a lot of the cheaper DVD-R media is obviously
semi-transparent, and I'd be concerned about the effects of labeling
one...
But FWIW, I've seen true CDR "bit-rot" only once. Can't remember the
brand or other details, but the one day I went to use this one CDR, all
attempts to read any of the files on it caused CRC errors to start
spewing on in the message log. It'd been sitting on the shelf in a case
for quite some time ( < 7 years, see below ) and there wasn't any
noteable physical damage to the media either. <shrug>
I'd agree its all about the brands though, as it looks like the very
first CDR I made back in 1997 is still quite readable (even though it
_IS_ fairly scratched.)
David
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 16:16, Teo Zenios wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Sokolov" <msokolov(a)ivan.harhan.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Article on data rot on CD's
Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com>
wrote:
I have 100's if not 1000 cds containing data and music that work fine with
labels attached. I haven't had a problem with vibrations even on 52x cdrom
drives. Some of the discs go back to the mid 90's.
I used to use the stick-it-right labels, but they are rare these days so I
use a bunch that were made by IBM. Using an applicator that centers the
label is important, I wouldn't eyeball it by hand.
The only cdr that failed that I remember was a highly used (and scratched)
backup copy of windows 95.
Teo> .... I would also like to know what
Teo> affect printable adhesive labels have on media...
I have a simpler rule for those: "just say NO".
So how is one supposed to label recorded CDs then? There needs to
be some way to identify which CD-R contains what...
MS
4:16 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Sokolov" <msokolov(a)ivan.harhan.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: Article on data rot on CD's
Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote:
Surely you can print on the top of modern cd/dvd's with either a felt tip
pen or a printer with a cd carriage ?
Geoff.
Teo> .... I would also like to know what
Teo> affect printable adhesive labels have on media...
I have a simpler rule for those: "just say NO".
So how is one supposed to label recorded CDs then? There needs to
be some way to identify which CD-R contains what...
MS 
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