Hey, I'd not spotted that. Yes, gamelan music is very binary: although the very slowest pulse (marked by the gong ageng) may not be a binary multiple of the next one up (gong suwukan, which is what I think I have), all the others are indeed binary subdivisions. One characteristic of gamelan music is that it tends to subdivide so far, and slow down so much, that I lose track of the tune in irama wilet or anything slower (I can't remember the names of half of these, it's so long ago) Something I never managed on either trip to Jakarta was to watch a wayang show. Oh well. I don't know any Japanese so I can't comment. But German has a tendency to a verb on the stack, rather than say it, and leave it there until you've what the sentence is about forgotten, put :-) Philip. (Who back in 1988 wanted to call the student-designed college network "gamma-LAN") This E-mail message is private and confidential and should only be read by those to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, reproduction, modification or publication of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please delete the message from your computer and destroy any copies. This message is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. This company therefore disclaims all responsibility and accepts no liability of any kind which may arise from any person acting, or refraining from acting, upon the contents of the message without having had subsequent written confirmation. If you have received this communication in error, or if any problems occur in transmission please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)2476 425474