10 Feb
1998
10 Feb
'98
9:07 a.m.
Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote:
If you have the original disk then that is normally
considered proof
that you have a legal copy of the software.
...
You're trying to read too much into this. I
never said the having one
copy of disks allowed you to have all the upgrades or newer versions. If
you have a set of original disks for XYZ v 1.0, then that is generally
considered proof of ownership of XYZ v 1.0 PERIOD.
OK, let's say I pull an old PC and some boxes out of a dumpster, and
there's a set of original AutoCAD Release 9 disks. By your rule, how
can I tell if I own a legit copy or not?
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
10 Feb
10 Feb
10:43 a.m.
At 09:07 AM 2/10/98 -0600, you wrote:
Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote:
Real simple. It they're original disks then it's a legit copy! Doesn't
matter if it came from a dumpster or not.
If you have the original disk then that is
normally considered proof
that you have a legal copy of the software.
...
You're trying to read too much into this.
I never said the having one
copy of disks allowed you to have all the upgrades or newer versions. If
you have a set of original disks for XYZ v 1.0, then that is generally
considered proof of ownership of XYZ v 1.0 PERIOD.
OK, let's say I pull an old PC and some boxes out of a dumpster, and
there's a set of original AutoCAD Release 9 disks. By your rule, how
can I tell if I own a legit copy or not?
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
8:20 p.m.
John Foust wrote:
OK, let's say I pull an old PC and some boxes out
of a dumpster, and
there's a set of original AutoCAD Release 9 disks. By your rule, how
can I tell if I own a legit copy or not?
You only own a legit copy if those disks are the last legit set in the
licensed set. I.E. if someone has upgraded the disks (and you can't
tell) this is not a legit copy, it's part of the upgrade. You have, in
essense, part of another's license.
-Mike
9:44 p.m.
At 07:20 PM 2/10/98 -0700, you wrote:
John Foust wrote:
Actually, if they are an earlier version and the software has been
upgraded they should stay with the upgrade disk(s) and computer. If the
owner throws them out, he no longer has a legit software package.
Joe
OK, let's say I pull an old PC and some boxes
out of a dumpster, and
there's a set of original AutoCAD Release 9 disks. By your rule, how
can I tell if I own a legit copy or not?
You only own a legit copy if those disks are the last legit set in the
licensed set. I.E. if someone has upgraded the disks (and you can't
tell) this is not a legit copy, it's part of the upgrade. You have, in
essense, part of another's license.
-Mike
8:58 p.m.
Joe
Actually, if they are an earlier version and the
software has been
upgraded they should stay with the upgrade disk(s) and computer. If the
owner throws them out, he no longer has a legit software package.
Joe
That's what I meant by "part". If the other person licensed the
upgrade, these disks are invalid. They are, indeed, TRASH.
Therefore, you have a legal copy, but not a legitimate license. In
other words, no one could prosecute you for not having a license, but
you couldn't legally upgrade.
-Mike
11 Feb
11 Feb
6:48 a.m.
Joe wrote:
Actually, if they are an earlier version and the
software has been
upgraded they should stay with the upgrade disk(s) and computer. If the
owner throws them out, he no longer has a legit software package.
That depends on the terms of the license. A few years ago when I took
up an offer from Borland to upgrade Turbo C from version 1.5 to 2.0 I
asked them if I could sell on the old disks and manuals legally and they
said that they fully supported that course of action because it
increased their user base.
Regards
Pete
8:27 a.m.
At 12:48 PM 2/11/98 +0000, you wrote:
Joe wrote:
Borland has alway taken a more enlightened attitude toward users. They
started selling Pascal for less than $100 when MS still wanted nearly $1000
per package. MicroSloth once said that they estimated the total world wide
usage for Pascal to only be a couple of hundred packages and that that
justified them charging what they did. Borland sold over 100 times that
many copies of Pascal in the first three years.
Joe
Actually, if they are an earlier version and
the software has been
upgraded they should stay with the upgrade disk(s) and computer. If the
owner throws them out, he no longer has a legit software package.
That depends on the terms of the license. A few years ago when I took
up an offer from Borland to upgrade Turbo C from version 1.5 to 2.0 I
asked them if I could sell on the old disks and manuals legally and they
said that they fully supported that course of action because it
increased their user base.
Regards
Pete
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