21 Oct
2007
21 Oct
'07
7:19 p.m.
Lots of new IBM things today, but all basically PC related.
Does anyone here have a 5182 Color Printer? This was one of the
goodies today, from an ex-IBM salesman that was finally clearing out
the closet. He said it was a very unsuccessful product from the XT/AT
era, and may have never been for sale to the public. He said they were
probably internal use only.
The 5182 is a dot matrix printer with a four color ribbon. Kludge on a stick.
Still, it is built like the mainframe people were in charge of the project.
--
Will
22 Oct
22 Oct
3:26 p.m.
Lots of new IBM things today, but all basically PC related.
Does anyone here have a 5182 Color Printer? This was one of the
goodies today, from an ex-IBM salesman that was finally clearing out
the closet. He said it was a very unsuccessful product from the XT/AT
era, and may have never been for sale to the public. He said they were
probably internal use only.
I have never seen one, but there's a section in the Options and Adapters
TechRef for the 'IBM Personal Comp[uter Color Printer'. Unfortunately the
TechRaf doesn't give model numbers, so I can't eb sure it's the same
unit, but I suspect it is. For reference, the TechRef shows the
microcontroller as a 6803 at loaction U6 on the control board.
If it is the same device, the mention of it in said TechRef would seem to
imply it as a released product.
The 5182 is a dot matrix printer with a four color ribbon. Kludge on a stick.
Thet idea was not uncommn at the time. DEC made one called the 'LA324'
which could take a colour ribbon and mechanically shifted it up and down
to change colour. I also rememebr using an Epson printer in the mid 1980s
that could take a 'colour kit' which was a motor + mechanical bits to
tilt the ribbon.
How well it worked I don't know. I've never been able to find a colour
ribbon for my LA324.
-tony
4:13 p.m.
On 22 Oct 2007 at 23:26, Tony Duell wrote:
Thet idea was not uncommn at the time. DEC made one
called the 'LA324'
which could take a colour ribbon and mechanically shifted it up and down
to change colour. I also rememebr using an Epson printer in the mid 1980s
that could take a 'colour kit' which was a motor + mechanical bits to
tilt the ribbon.
Some Diablo Hytype printer models had a ribbon-shift solenoid also on
the print head. Typically, just two colors, red and black. The big
problem with any of these multicolor ribbon systems is that there is
ink transfer from the printhead pins to the ribbon that eventually
causes the lighter colors to get contaminated with the darker ink
colors. And the multicolor ribbons were substantially more expensive
than monochrome ribbons.
But then, many typewriters, including my old Smith-Corona manual, had
a ribbon-shift levers--so it's not a new idea by any means.
Cheers,
Chuck
4:26 p.m.
I have an Epson LQ-2550 wide-carriage dot matrix that does color exactly
this way, with a 4-color ribbon and shifting the ribbon up and down to
select colors while printing, printing color 4 passes per line.
On 10/22/07, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Lots of new IBM things today, but all basically PC related.
Does anyone here have a 5182 Color Printer? This was one of the
goodies today, from an ex-IBM salesman that was finally clearing out
the closet. He said it was a very unsuccessful product from the XT/AT
era, and may have never been for sale to the public. He said they were
probably internal use only.
I have never seen one, but there's a section in the Options and Adapters
TechRef for the 'IBM Personal Comp[uter Color Printer'. Unfortunately the
TechRaf doesn't give model numbers, so I can't eb sure it's the same
unit, but I suspect it is. For reference, the TechRef shows the
microcontroller as a 6803 at loaction U6 on the control board.
If it is the same device, the mention of it in said TechRef would seem to
imply it as a released product.
The 5182 is a dot matrix printer with a four color ribbon. Kludge on a
stick.
Thet idea was not uncommn at the time. DEC made one called the 'LA324'
which could take a colour ribbon and mechanically shifted it up and down
to change colour. I also rememebr using an Epson printer in the mid 1980s
that could take a 'colour kit' which was a motor + mechanical bits to
tilt the ribbon.
How well it worked I don't know. I've never been able to find a colour
ribbon for my LA324.
-tony
4:30 p.m.
Does anyone here have a 5182 Color Printer? This was
one of the
goodies today, from an ex-IBM salesman that was finally clearing out
the closet. He said it was a very unsuccessful product from the XT/AT
era, and may have never been for sale to the public. He said they were
probably internal use only.
The 5182 is a dot matrix printer with a four color ribbon. Kludge on a stick.
I have had quite a few of these go throgh my hands in the early 90s.
The IBM 5182 Color dot matrix printer is actually a Dataproducts 8050
with different plastic and branding. Any 8050 dataproducts ribbon
(widely used) should work.
The Dataproducts 8050 was a heavy duty office dot matrix printer and
quite common. The IBM varient is uncommon. Worth saving if in good
condition.
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA
4:37 p.m.
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 22:19 -0400, William Donzelli wrote:
The 5182 is a dot matrix printer with a four color
ribbon. Kludge on a stick.
I have a printer (possibly Seikosha?) with a CMYK ribbon and 24-pin
head. The printout from it is surprisingly good.
I first saw one of these used with an Amiga.
Gordon
5:17 p.m.
Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 22:19 -0400, William Donzelli
wrote:
Wasn't there also the Okidata ML395C with a similar setup?
Peace... Sridhar
The 5182 is a dot matrix printer with a four
color ribbon. Kludge on a stick.
I have a printer (possibly Seikosha?) with a CMYK ribbon and 24-pin
head. The printout from it is surprisingly good.
23 Oct
23 Oct
12:15 a.m.
On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 20:17 -0400, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
It could easily be Okidata. I can picture what it looks like. I can
picture where it is relative to all the other stuff. I just can't
remember any details about it, and it's 220 miles away right now.
Gordon
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 22:19 -0400, William
Donzelli wrote:
Wasn't there also the Okidata ML395C with a similar setup? The 5182 is a dot matrix printer with a four
color ribbon. Kludge on a stick.
I have a printer (possibly Seikosha?) with a CMYK ribbon and 24-pin
head. The printout from it is surprisingly good. 
25 Oct
25 Oct
6:07 a.m.
New subject: List test please ignore
For some unexplained reason I have stoped recieving messages from this list.
I expect this message will bounce, if it makes it through then sorry everyone,
I just wanted to see what the bounce looked like.
Bob
9:39 a.m.
New subject: Warning ATT-Yahoo now blocking cctalk as spam.
I just got off the phone with SBCglobal and discovered that they have begun filtering this
list as SPAM/Bulk
mail. I use a pop3 mail reader and have never accessesd their webmail before, so I am sure
I never
turned any filtering on. I was supprised to find that AT&T is no longer able to manage
their own mail
servers and are relying on the Yahhos at yahoo to do it for them. After about 30 minutes
on the phone with
India, I was able to get cctalk whitelisted for my account, but not whitelisted in general
so others using
AT&T Yahoo mail servers will likely still have problems.
We don't care, we don't have to care, we are AT&T, again !
As I crawl back under under my rock ... muttering ...
Bob
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:07:09 -0400, Bob Bradlee wrote:
For some unexplained reason I have stoped recieving
messages from this list.
I expect this message will bounce, if it makes it through then sorry everyone,
I just wanted to see what the bounce looked like.
Bob
10:44 a.m.
New subject: Warning ATT-Yahoo now blocking cctalk as spam.
Bob Bradlee <caveguy at sbcglobal.net> wrote: I just got off the phone with
SBCglobal and discovered that they have begun filtering this list as SPAM/Bulk
mail. -snip..
Yes, I have been having this problem the last week. Looks
like a call to At&t is in order.
Bob
12:36 p.m.
New subject: Warning ATT-Yahoo now blocking cctalk as spam.
On Thursday 25 October 2007 12:39, Bob Bradlee wrote:
I just got off the phone with SBCglobal and discovered
that they have begun
filtering this list as SPAM/Bulk mail. I use a pop3 mail reader and have
never accessesd their webmail before, so I am sure I never turned any
filtering on. I was supprised to find that AT&T is no longer able to manage
their own mail servers and are relying on the Yahhos at yahoo to do it for
them. After about 30 minutes on the phone with India, I was able to get
cctalk whitelisted for my account, but not whitelisted in general so others
using AT&T Yahoo mail servers will likely still have problems.
We don't care, we don't have to care, we are AT&T, again !
As I crawl back under under my rock ... muttering ...
Bob
I use verizon here. I have been using them for roughly a year or so, now. I
was rather surprised, when going on their web site, to find that they have
spam filtering turned on by default, and that they also have the default of
simply deleting what they consider to be spam messages without any
notification of what's going on or any opportunity to deal with it.
Fortunately, they also provide the option to toss 'em in a folder, where
you can look at them before they're deleted automatically after 30 days.
This is the same behavior of my yahoo and gmail accounts. I get in there
every once in a while and look at what's there. Mostly I delete this stuff,
but every once in a while I find one that's not spam, and there's usually an
option to deal with that appropriately. Hopefully that's better training for
whatever software it is that's making those decisions.
And yet I still get spam here, sometimes, and forward it to
their "notcaught" mailbox, hoping that it'll help. You'd think that
there
being a list of alphabetically-sequential email addresses would be a usable
clue, but apparently not...
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