20 May
2004
20 May
'04
8:46 a.m.
Fred N. van Kempen <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> wrote:
It is the "small cabinet" version, just so
you know, not the 30" wide
thing.
Really?? So it *is* the thing I've been looking for, XMI plus possible VAXBI
in standard 19" rackmount units mounted in a rack?
Well, then again I don't have room for or ability to transport a full 19" rack
either... But if the VAX system per se is not the rack but the rackmount units
in it, is there perchance a way you could let me have those?? I want a
VAXBI/XMI machine sooooo bad! Just obtained a copy of the VAXBI spec a couple
months ago and just dying to work with some real HW. But have no room for a
rack. The best I can do is run rackmount units on the bedroom floor instead of
a rack. (What do you do when you just can't afford a real machine room? Use a
bedroom instead.)
MS
20 May
20 May
8:53 a.m.
On Thu, 20 May 2004, Michael Sokolov wrote:
Really?? So it *is* the thing I've been looking
for, XMI plus possible VAXBI
in standard 19" rackmount units mounted in a rack?
Yep. One rack, about
19" ("plus a bit") wide.
See my off-list message.
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10:03 a.m.
On May 20, 2004, at 10:46 AM, Michael Sokolov wrote:
Fred N. van Kempen <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> wrote:
I replied on another list, but I'll follow up here... I'm in the San
Jose area and would love to rescue some of this stuff, ESPECIALLY the
Symbolics. I had one years ago and had to give it up because of lack
of room... but now I have a house so I can put it anywhere I like.
*grin*
Mark Davidson
It is the "small cabinet" version, just
so you know, not the 30" wide
thing.
Really?? So it *is* the thing I've been looking for, XMI plus
possible VAXBI
in standard 19" rackmount units mounted in a rack?
12:37 p.m.
New subject: VAXBI hardware (was Re: Equipment disposal)
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 10:46:46AM -0700, Michael Sokolov wrote:
Well, then again I don't have room for or ability
to transport a full 19" rack
either... But if the VAX system per se is not the rack but the rackmount units
in it, is there perchance a way you could let me have those?? I want a
VAXBI/XMI machine sooooo bad! Just obtained a copy of the VAXBI spec a couple
months ago and just dying to work with some real HW. But have no room for a
rack. The best I can do is run rackmount units on the bedroom floor instead of
a rack. (What do you do when you just can't afford a real machine room? Use a
bedroom instead.)
I've never had an XMI machine, but I do have a BI machine in the basement,
an 8200/8300 (depending on if I slot in the second processor or not).
I suppose I'd use it more if I had a disk interface for it other than SDI,
or if I had some SDI disks other than an RA81 and one 3rd-party SDI<->ESDI
box. Because I have lots of 2MB VAXBI memory cards, the bus is full up.
The only thing that makes is really interesting is that I have a) a Unibus
adapter for it, and b) a custom VAXBI card (COMBOARD-BI) for which I have
the entire development environment. I suppose I could hack the card to
support a SCSI port or something, but, as in an earlier discussion, it would
have to be a plug-in-the-CPU-socket hack - but that would make the card
thick enough to require two slots. :-(
I just wish I could get the Unibus adapter working - it used to work before
I moved it into my basement, but something strange happened, and when I plugged
it all in, the DWBUA card fried (voltage where it shouldn't be - burned a trace
on the board and detonated a chip!) I've verified the cables are correct, and
I've replaced the DWBUA, but the best I can get now is failed self-test.
I've seen how well a VAX-6000 fills a basement - there'd be no room down in
mine for one... at least the 8200 is compact - 42" tall DEC cab, with a BA-32
at the top (size of a BA-11) and lots of room below for cables. The real
shortcoming is you are limited to two VAXBI cages or one VAXBI cage and an
internal Unibus (mine is 2x VAXBI + external BA-11)
Does anyone happen to have any "large" VAXBI memory boards? (16MB might be
the largest) I have a stack of 2MB and a couple of 4MB. I got the 4MB boards
from a scrapper for $10 each because he didn't want
to bother removing the
DRAM from it. I have the stack of 2MB boards because we used
to buy them
for <$50 each (way back) and pull the VAXBIIC off of them for our _own_
VAXBI boards (saving about $300 per board!)
-ethan
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