26 Jan
1999
26 Jan
'99
4:14 a.m.
It seems to me that the 802 was a televideo terminal with an integrated
workstation. These worked in conjunction with a server unit to run an OS
called MOST, I believe, and I have a couple of the server units, the number
of which will occur to me when I look at one again.
These were fairly late technology, using 64k DRAMS and a 4MHz Z80A. The
servers had four or five serial ports using Z80 SIO's and either 10 or 20
MB winchesters to go with their 5-1/4" floppies. They used the
WD1000-series HDC, which used an 8X300 microcontroller (I2L technology,
Harvard architecture) and the WD1000 5-chip set. I always admired the
packaging technology, which was first rate.
I have to believe the workstations were up to the same standard in
convenient packaging. Televideo was late getting into the desktop
workstation market, but did it in a big way with these numbers, as they had
all you could want. The OS was purported, by some users I knew, to be
quite a bit superior to MPM, which was quite established at that time (late
'70's, early '80's).
If anyone is interested in the server units, I can make them available,
less drives, and possibly a couple of SIO/2's which I scavenged years ago,
for the packaging/shipping cost.
Dick
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From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Televideo 802 computer?
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 2:35 AM
Does anyone have one of these? I found a manual for one of these
yesterday
and it looks pretty cool.
Joe
26 Jan
26 Jan
7:15 a.m.
You may be right, I looked through a stack of Televideo manuals I know one
of them was for an 802. Most of the manuals were for terminals but one was
for a computer. The computer looks about 12" tall and 18" wide and has a
CRT on the left side of the screen and disk drive or two mounted vertically
on the right side and it runs CPM. It did have a Z-80 CPU. Does a model
850 sound right? I asked about the computer but no one knew where it was.
That's not unusual for them. Yesterday I finally found a keyboard for a
computer that I bought there over a year ago.
I know know someone that has a heap of old 970 terminals. Is there
anything in them worth saving? They've been out in the wheather so there's
no guarantees on the condition of the parts.
Joe
At 08:14 AM 1/26/99 -0700, you wrote:
It seems to me that the 802 was a televideo terminal
with an integrated
workstation. These worked in conjunction with a server unit to run an OS
called MOST, I believe, and I have a couple of the server units, the number
of which will occur to me when I look at one again.
These were fairly late technology, using 64k DRAMS and a 4MHz Z80A. The
servers had four or five serial ports using Z80 SIO's and either 10 or 20
MB winchesters to go with their 5-1/4" floppies. They used the
WD1000-series HDC, which used an 8X300 microcontroller (I2L technology,
Harvard architecture) and the WD1000 5-chip set. I always admired the
packaging technology, which was first rate.
I have to believe the workstations were up to the same standard in
convenient packaging. Televideo was late getting into the desktop
workstation market, but did it in a big way with these numbers, as they had
all you could want. The OS was purported, by some users I knew, to be
quite a bit superior to MPM, which was quite established at that time (late
'70's, early '80's).
If anyone is interested in the server units, I can make them available,
less drives, and possibly a couple of SIO/2's which I scavenged years ago,
for the packaging/shipping cost.
Dick
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From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Televideo 802 computer?
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 2:35 AM
Does anyone have one of these? I found a manual for one of these
yesterday
and it looks pretty cool.
Joe
6:22 a.m.
New subject: Am I a part of history ?
I just did a quick search on several National Semiconductor
about SC/MP - guess what I get:
Sorry, I didn't find any documents that matched your search for "SC/MP"
:(((
Gruss
H.
P.S.: I just unpacked my SC/MP kit - Original binder, with original
packed, still shrink warped, unassembled kit .... Herrgott I'M HAPPY :)
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
5:53 a.m.
New subject: Am I a part of history ?
Hans Franke wrote:
I just did a quick search on several National Semiconductor
about SC/MP - guess what I get:
Sorry, I didn't find any documents that matched your search for "SC/MP"
There is a guy in England that has or had one. I corresponded with him
several years ago and sent him a copy of the manual. My search for the
SC/MP at that time only turned up a couple of hits.
P.S.: I just unpacked my SC/MP kit - Original binder,
with original
packed, still shrink warped, unassembled kit .... Herrgott I'M HAPPY :)
Congratulations! I suspect that the unassembled kits are a bit on the rare
side. Did you get the keypad entry option also?
8:26 a.m.
New subject: Am I a part of history ?
> I just did a quick search on several National
Semiconductor
> about SC/MP - guess what I get:
> Sorry, I didn't find any documents that
matched your search for "SC/MP"
There is a guy in England that has or had one. I
corresponded with him
several years ago and sent him a copy of the manual. My search for the
SC/MP at that time only turned up a couple of hits.
It's not that I have no information, just frustrating, that not
even the manufacturer is mentioning their (back then) remarkable
product on their web site, or offer any information - Did you
know that the asynchronous bus of the SC/MP makes this little
crappy CPU IDEAL not only for simple systems, but also for
_very_ simple multiprocessor systems - I guess between two and
three CPUs could work perfectly without loosing a lot of sync
time - maybe even 4 or 5, depending on the instruction mix...
(Jep, I know, 6502 systems culd also give easy dual processor
systems with inverted Phi).
> P.S.: I just unpacked my SC/MP kit - Original
binder, with original
> packed, still shrink warped, unassembled kit .... Herrgott I'M HAPPY :)
Congratulations! I suspect that the unassembled kits
are a bit on the rare
side. Did you get the keypad entry option also?
Talking about the pocket calculator like thing ? - Jep, I did - also
original packed etc. - No I have an assembled unit _and_ an unassembled
kit (and 2 SBCs) and some spare boards. - gee - Maybe SC/MP is now a
mayor player in my collection - I have at least 12 systems :)
BTW: I also have a punch tape for a SC/MP macro assembler, that is
made for an 8080 system (SL 0052 M8080 Macro Assembler PKG SC/MP 8080
Cross Asm. 11/30/78) - has anybody information about this particular
Software ? system needed to run etc. ? I have no other information.
Within some of the manuals an IMP-16 system is mentioned, that should
provide a cross assembler, but I have no idea about that.
Gruss
H.
P.S.: Today must be my lucky day - a friend called, if I would take
some old scrap from him, and it turned out to be a whole bunch of 70s
chips - including at least one complete 8008 chip set ....
<fredmode>
jabadabadu !
</fredmode>
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
8:12 a.m.
I actually have one of these with no docs... Who was it that was offering
a manual?
George
=========================================================
George L. Rachor george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com
Beaverton, Oregon http://racsys.rt.rain.com
United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Richard Erlacher wrote:
It seems to me that the 802 was a televideo terminal
with an integrated
workstation. These worked in conjunction with a server unit to run an OS
called MOST, I believe, and I have a couple of the server units, the number
of which will occur to me when I look at one again.
These were fairly late technology, using 64k DRAMS and a 4MHz Z80A. The
servers had four or five serial ports using Z80 SIO's and either 10 or 20
MB winchesters to go with their 5-1/4" floppies. They used the
WD1000-series HDC, which used an 8X300 microcontroller (I2L technology,
Harvard architecture) and the WD1000 5-chip set. I always admired the
packaging technology, which was first rate.
I have to believe the workstations were up to the same standard in
convenient packaging. Televideo was late getting into the desktop
workstation market, but did it in a big way with these numbers, as they had
all you could want. The OS was purported, by some users I knew, to be
quite a bit superior to MPM, which was quite established at that time (late
'70's, early '80's).
If anyone is interested in the server units, I can make them available,
less drives, and possibly a couple of SIO/2's which I scavenged years ago,
for the packaging/shipping cost.
Dick
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From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Televideo 802 computer?
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 2:35 AM
Does anyone have one of these? I found a manual for one of these
yesterday
and it looks pretty cool.
Joe
11:35 a.m.
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Richard Erlacher wrote:
It seems to me that the 802 was a televideo terminal
with an integrated
workstation. These worked in conjunction with a server unit to run an OS
called MOST, I believe, and I have a couple of the server units, the number
of which will occur to me when I look at one again.
The TS 802 was a dual 5.25" floppy desktop computer with separate
keyboard. It ran CP/M or TurboDOS as a standalone, or could be used as a
sattelite user station in conjunction with a server running MMMOST or
TurboDOS. The server was frequently the TS 806. There was also a TS 802H
that was equipped with a 10mb hard disk and only a single floppy drive.
- don
These were fairly late technology, using 64k DRAMS and
a 4MHz Z80A. The
servers had four or five serial ports using Z80 SIO's and either 10 or 20
MB winchesters to go with their 5-1/4" floppies. They used the
WD1000-series HDC, which used an 8X300 microcontroller (I2L technology,
Harvard architecture) and the WD1000 5-chip set. I always admired the
packaging technology, which was first rate.
I have to believe the workstations were up to the same standard in
convenient packaging. Televideo was late getting into the desktop
workstation market, but did it in a big way with these numbers, as they had
all you could want. The OS was purported, by some users I knew, to be
quite a bit superior to MPM, which was quite established at that time (late
'70's, early '80's).
If anyone is interested in the server units, I can make them available,
less drives, and possibly a couple of SIO/2's which I scavenged years ago,
for the packaging/shipping cost.
Dick
----------
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Televideo 802 computer?
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 2:35 AM
Does anyone have one of these? I found a manual for one of these
yesterday
and it looks pretty cool.
Joe
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