Remember that UPS stands for United Package Smashers Ive heard that they require enough packing to survive a 6 foot drop which is what they probably do to every package just to make a point. I avoid using them. I've always had good results from the USPS. In a message dated 6/16/2003 10:21:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jcwren(a)jcwren.com writes: << It's all very dependent on the store. I have one near me that I use, since the nearest Fedex and UPS counters are miles away. I have a good relationship with the people there, and they understand how to pack most items. Generally, I'll give a specification how I want it packed, and they'll do exactly as I ask. They know to put tape over lables in case they get wet (preventing running), triple taping bottoms, double taping edges, etc. >>