16 Sep
2004
16 Sep
'04
10:24 a.m.
16 Sep
16 Sep
10:41 a.m.
John Foust wrote:
"Some in the UCSD crowd remain convinced that their software was
technologically superior to Bill Gates's MS-DOS, and still mourn that
outcome."
so, please put it open source ...
3:20 p.m.
At 02:41 PM 9/16/2004, you wrote:
John Foust wrote:
"Some in the UCSD crowd remain convinced that their software was technologically
superior to Bill Gates's MS-DOS, and still mourn that outcome."
so, please put it open source ...
Eight years ago or so, I'd inquired at the UCSD licensing office.
Just dealing with a junk yard dealer, the very act of asking
about an item raises its value from zero. At the time, a UK
company (Cabot Software http://www.cabot.co.uk/) still held
an active license from UCSD. They were pushing the p-System
opcode engine as their solution for set-top boxes.
By 2001, Cabot had given up on supporting or promoting technology
based on their their old p-code-based system. I haven't asked
at UCSD since... but if I do, I suspect they will get dollar
signs in their eyes, as per above.
- John
4:59 p.m.
emanuel stiebler wrote:
John Foust wrote:
> http://alumni.ucsd.edu/magazine/vol1no3/features/pascal.htm
"Some in the UCSD crowd remain convinced that
their software was
technologically superior to Bill Gates's MS-DOS, and still mourn that
outcome."
so, please put it open source ...
Well for back then I would say , all was just as flakey.
The only thing pascal was 'is portable' ( barely ) on the
8 bit machines. The only real NICE languages I have used
where BASIC/09 and Pascal for OS/9 for the 6809 cpu.
Even if you get the PASCAL OS do you get the compiler source?
Ben.
17 Sep
17 Sep
2:51 a.m.
At 08:59 PM 9/16/2004, ben franchuk wrote:
Well for back then I would say , all was just as
flakey.
The only thing pascal was 'is portable' ( barely ) on the
8 bit machines. [...]
Of course. "Portable" is still a quite qualified word today.
Even if you get the PASCAL OS do you get the compiler
source?
I'd be very surprised if UCSD's licensing department has a copy
of all the relevant software (every major and minor release
for every platform in a vault). Even Ken Bowles cleaned out
his office and tossed stuff.
The better news is that the source for some releases was
and is still available. It was always out there. That would
let us rest knowing that at least some of the released bits
were saved - but who knows what was lost.
- John
6:43 a.m.
ben franchuk wrote:
emanuel stiebler wrote:
We had the whole developers kit at some time, and ported it to a mc68k.
That was VERY easy, and I was really impressed with the performance and
how easy it was to use (AFTER that I had my first experience with it on
an apple;-)) Even the graphic part was nice (we had a bitmapped display
on it).
IIRC, the pcode interpreter had a 64k limit on data and code, but
imageine what you can do with 64k of pcode ;-)
And, imagine how easy it is to make a multi-user system, if you have
enough memory, and could switch just the data/code segments ...
cheers
John Foust wrote:
> http://alumni.ucsd.edu/magazine/vol1no3/features/pascal.htm
"Some in the UCSD crowd remain convinced
that their software was
technologically superior to Bill Gates's MS-DOS, and still mourn that
outcome."
so, please put it open source ...
Well for back then I would say , all was just as flakey.
The only thing pascal was 'is portable' ( barely ) on the
8 bit machines.
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