You do that too? I always got more code written in a shorter period of time that way. When modifying code, paper is all the more useful, particularly wide greenbar with the code to be modified or added to printed out on it. My former employer had no printer with greenbar, which really came as a shock to me, as every place else I'd ever worked had at least one high-speed line printer. It's too annoying to make changes to long programs on the screen; much easier to leaf through pages of code and pencil in changes, draw lines here and there, circle things, etc. than to go from screen to screen with an editor, as that can become confusing with large programs. No wonder modern code has become so bloated and full of bugs; the programmers have less of an idea what they're working on. Even stranger was the fact that most of the people I worked with, who were programmers, had no idea what greenbar was, even when it was described to them! Hopefully line printers and wide dot-matrix printers aren't on their way to becoming obsolete. -- R. D. Davis rdd(a)perqlogic.com http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd 410-744-4900