At 08:41 9/27/97 -0500, you wrote: I'm researching that now, and, not quite. The original, buggy /// started shipping in September 1980. There was a revised, mostly fixed version also called the /// that was introduced in December 1981. The ///+ didn't appear till December 1983 and both models were discontinued in April 1984....so that's why most of us don't have a ///+. __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California