1 Sep
2004
1 Sep
'04
9:37 p.m.
Now here is something I like the looks of. At only $130, I'm really
tempted to pick one up, it's perfect for destroying old data CD's. I
thought others here might be interested in as well.
http://www.primera.com/ds360_disc_shredder.html
Zane
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10:37 p.m.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Now here is something I like the looks of. At only
$130, I'm really tempted
to pick one up, it's perfect for destroying old data CD's. I thought others
here might be interested in as well.
Ya know - $130 bux out the door for a do-hickey that sort of embosses the
surfaces of a CD - so you can what... store it in the "FUBAR CD" drawer?
Run it thru that machine and then shitcan it?
I was going to make the same point that Ben made: scarf up on a
garage-sale microvave for about .001 of the cost of the ShredderGoody(tm)
and then have a great deal of fun pretending that they're the dying
Enterprise, disintegrating in colorful flames as it makes it's last
re-entry...
Now that's a truly nerdy way to 'format' a CDR...
Cheers
Rathuv Conn
10:53 p.m.
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the
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> Now here is something I like the looks of. At only $130, I'm really
tempted
> to pick one up, it's perfect for destroying
old data CD's. I thought
others
here might be
interested in as well.
Ya know - $130 bux out the door for a do-hickey that sort of embosses surfaces of a CD - so you can what... store it in the
"FUBAR CD" drawer?
Run it thru that machine and then shitcan it?
I was going to make the same point that Ben made: scarf up on a
garage-sale microvave for about .001 of the cost of the ShredderGoody(tm)
and then have a great deal of fun pretending that they're the dying
Enterprise, disintegrating in colorful flames as it makes it's last
re-entry...
Now that's a truly nerdy way to 'format' a CDR...
Cheers
Rathuv Conn
What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2 and tossing it in the trash? Or
if your a "girly man" (just a joke) just scratch the data layer. Unless you
are doing top secret government work for a foreign nation nobody is going to
even try piecing the thing back together with high tech gear. $130 is just a
bit pricey for a cd shredder in my opinion. Oh, and for those who like to
nuke things that should not get nuked, does your food taste a bit strange
after you blast metal ions and pieces of carcinogenic polymer around in your
food warming machine?
10:55 p.m.
Teo Zenios wrote:
What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2 and
tossing it in the trash? Or
if your a "girly man" (just a joke) just scratch the data layer. Unless you
are doing top secret government work for a foreign nation nobody is going to
even try piecing the thing back together with high tech gear. $130 is just a
bit pricey for a cd shredder in my opinion. Oh, and for those who like to
nuke things that should not get nuked, does your food taste a bit strange
after you blast metal ions and pieces of carcinogenic polymer around in your
food warming machine?
Well that can't be any worse than my cooking on the top of the stove.
:-)
11:02 p.m.
Teo Zenios wrote:
What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2 and
tossing it in the trash? Or
if your a "girly man" (just a joke) just scratch the data layer. Unless you
are doing top secret government work for a foreign nation nobody is going to
even try piecing the thing back together with high tech gear. $130 is just a
bit pricey for a cd shredder in my opinion. Oh, and for those who like to
nuke things that should not get nuked, does your food taste a bit strange
after you blast metal ions and pieces of carcinogenic polymer around in your
food warming machine?
How about the toaster or deep fryer instead?
Wow 'waffle' CD coasters fresh from the waffle maker.
11:11 p.m.
How about the toaster or deep fryer instead?
Wow 'waffle' CD coasters fresh from the waffle maker.
Deep fat fried CD's.... Now that might actually be interesting to see :^)
Zane
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11:18 p.m.
Deep fat fried CD's.... Now that might actually
be interesting to see :^)
Especially if the CD reacted to the hot oil like chinese cellophane noodles,
puffing up 10 times their size and going from clear to non-opaque white.
Hummm Neat visual :)
Actually... I like the waffle iron idea. If you could get a cd into a waffle
iron pattern, with melted sunk depressions in a regular pattern.... I am
thinking you'd have a great saleable product as a coaster. The next Pet
rock... a CD like a waffle for a coaster. What geek wouldn't want one? :-)
Jay {running off to set up his ebay merchant account for
CDwaffleCoasters(tm) }
2 Sep
2 Sep
5:20 p.m.
I think think this thread is a waste of time.
Having said that, oven, 500dF, 30 mins
turns pile into lump.
John A.
6:05 p.m.
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Subject: Re: CD Shredder
I think think this thread is a waste of time.
Having said that, oven, 500dF, 30 mins
turns pile into lump.
John A.
Do you have to turn them over at all, and are they low fiber?
:)
1 Sep
1 Sep
11:04 p.m.
What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2 and
tossing it in the trash? Or
That's what I do now, but the shredder seems cleaner. OK, I confess,
I think a shredder that can handle CD's is cool :^) Though it would
be even cooler if it did it into smaller pieces.
Zane
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11:10 p.m.
I think a shredder that can handle CD's is cool
:^) Though it would
be even cooler if it did it into smaller pieces.
Pretty much any bog-standard electric handsaw should be plenty capable
of dealing with that. At msot you'd need to place the cd between two
pieces of wood for stiffness.
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11:19 p.m.
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Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: CD Shredder
>What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2
and tossing it in the trash?
Or
That's what I do now, but the shredder seems cleaner. OK, I confess,
I think a shredder that can handle CD's is cool :^) Though it would
be even cooler if it did it into smaller pieces.
Zane
A shredder capable of shredding cd's probably makes a decent amount of
noise. If you do get one make sure your kids don't try and help "clean up"
your messy desk by running your Led Zeppelin cds into the shredder along
with your Windows install cds.
11:52 p.m.
What's
wrong with just breaking the cd in 2 and tossing it in the trash?
That's what I do now, but the shredder seems cleaner. OK, I confess,
I think a shredder that can handle CD's is cool :^) Though it would
be even cooler if it did it into smaller pieces. 
11:44 p.m.
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 23:52, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
The Fellowes shredder I have here ($180) can easily destroy CDs into
little bitty sharp metal-plastic confetti. It's therapeutic to toss
AOL discs into it and listen to it crush the disc into fragments. ^^
As well, the Cost-$50-when-new shredder I've got at work (rescued from
the trash) can very effectively irreversably damage CDs, if not break
them apart. I have even sent plastic (did some damage to) and ceramic
(just came out the bottom) package surplus ICs through it, and it still
shreds paper.
If your local office supply store has "demo" models, just bring some AOL
CDs, or use the free ones they probably have at the checkout counter,
to evaluate models before you buy one. :)
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What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2 and
tossing it in the
trash?
That's what I do now, but the shredder seems cleaner. OK, I
confess, I think a shredder that can handle CD's is cool :^)
Though it would be even cooler if it did it into smaller pieces. 
2 Sep
2 Sep
1:27 a.m.
The shredder under discussion is overkill for most purposes. There's a much
cheaper model around with two toothed rollers held together by a powerful
spring. The CD passes between the rollers and gets covered with a myriad of
tiny puncture marks on both sides. They're deep enough to puncture the data
layer and too deep to be polished out. Plus the device is almost silent in
use and much faster than the "shredder" model.
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5:42 p.m.
I admit, actually shredding the things would be satisfying, however,
At 6:27 PM +1200 9/2/04, Don Hills wrote:
The shredder under discussion is overkill for most
purposes. There's a much
cheaper model around with two toothed rollers held together by a powerful
spring. The CD passes between the rollers and gets covered with a myriad of
tiny puncture marks on both sides. They're deep enough to puncture the data
layer and too deep to be polished out. Plus the device is almost silent in
use and much faster than the "shredder" model.
we too use a similar (or perhaps, the same) device. It is a Bosser
100DX CD Destroyer. A quick Google turned up:
<http://www.publishingperfection.com/bosser/bsr101/>
Works quite well. Feel free to put the CD through a number of times
in different directions. Makes interesting patterns on the disc.
John
1:21 a.m.
breaking cds can be dangerous,,,, when they snap pieces can go flying and
into your eyes or a piece of plastic can also cut your arm....
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
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From: "Cameron Kaiser" <spectre(a)floodgap.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: CD Shredder
The Fellowes shredder I have here ($180) can easily destroy CDs into
little
bitty sharp metal-plastic confetti. It's therapeutic to toss AOL discs
into
it and listen to it crush the disc into fragments. ^^
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What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2 and
tossing it in the
trash?
That's what I do now, but the shredder seems cleaner. OK, I confess,
I think a shredder that can handle CD's is cool :^) Though it would
be even cooler if it did it into smaller pieces. 
6:27 a.m.
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 23:53 -0400, Teo Zenios wrote:
What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2 and
tossing it in the trash?
If you've got a large room and a chair on wheels, put the CD on the
floor and then charge at the CD from across the room on the chair. Great
in an office environment where you can take turns. Bonus points for not
only destroying the CD but crashing through the partition wall at the
far end...
cheers,
Jules
3:26 p.m.
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From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk>
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Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: CD Shredder
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 23:53 -0400, Teo Zenios wrote:
Someone over here was using old aol and other freebie cd's to make
interactive rooms for stimulating autistic children .
Haven't heard of them for a while though.
Geoff.
What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2
and tossing it in the trash?
If you've got a large room and a chair on wheels, put the CD on the
floor and then charge at the CD from across the room on the chair. Great
in an office environment where you can take turns. Bonus points for not
only destroying the CD but crashing through the partition wall at the
far end...
cheers,
Jules
6:38 a.m.
At 11:37 PM 9/1/2004, you wrote:
I was going to make the same point that Ben made:
scarf up on a
garage-sale microvave for about .001 of the cost of the ShredderGoody(tm)
and then have a great deal of fun pretending that they're the dying
Enterprise, disintegrating in colorful flames as it makes it's last
re-entry...
Can you do that???
:-)
Ed
11:31 a.m.
At 07:38 AM 9/2/04 -0400, Ed wrote:
At 11:37 PM 9/1/2004, you wrote:
You bet! It makes a hell of a light show!
Joe
I was going to make the same point that Ben
made: scarf up on a
garage-sale microvave for about .001 of the cost of the ShredderGoody(tm)
and then have a great deal of fun pretending that they're the dying
Enterprise, disintegrating in colorful flames as it makes it's last
re-entry...
Can you do that??? 
12:25 p.m.
Rumor has it that Joe R. may have mentioned these words:
At 07:38 AM 9/2/04 -0400, Ed wrote:
If one is worried about poofing one's microwave oven, it *helps* if you put
the CD on a ceramic mug full of water.
One is still putting metallic objects into a nuker, which in practice is
bad, but putting metallic objects into a nuker with absolutely no place to
go (re: just the CD) is worse. (and yes, just because *your* nuker may
survive this, doesn't mean *everybody's* nuker may survive!)
I don't do it as I just spent too much on my new nuker. However, I have
seen it done, and it is kewl. ;-)
WRT the CD shredder thingy - I keep one on my hip. It's called a
leatherman. Get it out, unfold the knife, 4-5 swipes with the blade (taking
care to *only* cut the CD, and not oneself in the process ;-) ) And you're
done.
I could find a *lot* better ways to whizz away $130!
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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At 11:37 PM 9/1/2004, you wrote:
You bet! It makes a hell of a light show! I was going to make the same point that Ben
made: scarf up on a
garage-sale microvave for about .001 of the cost of the ShredderGoody(tm)
and then have a great deal of fun pretending that they're the dying
Enterprise, disintegrating in colorful flames as it makes it's last
re-entry...
Can you do that??? 
8 Sep
8 Sep
12:14 p.m.
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 01:25:51PM -0400, Roger Merchberger wrote:
One is still putting metallic objects into a nuker,
which in practice is
bad, but putting metallic objects into a nuker with absolutely no place to
go (re: just the CD) is worse. (and yes, just because *your* nuker may
survive this, doesn't mean *everybody's* nuker may survive!)
Darn. This whole thread is making me wish I had thought to stick a CD
in my old nuker before tossing the nuker in the dumpster.
2 Sep
2 Sep
11:22 a.m.
I've found that a microwave oven does a thorough job on CDs and it's
entertaining to boot!
Joe
At 07:37 PM 9/1/04 -0700, you wrote:
Now here is something I like the looks of. At only
$130, I'm really
tempted to pick one up, it's perfect for destroying old data CD's. I
thought others here might be interested in as well.
http://www.primera.com/ds360_disc_shredder.html
Zane
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3 Sep
3 Sep
10:58 a.m.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Now here is something I like the looks of. At only
$130, I'm really
tempted to pick one up, it's perfect for destroying old data CD's. I
thought others here might be interested in as well.
http://www.primera.com/ds360_disc_shredder.html
Fun! Any old heavy duty (and I mean heavy duty, not the ones you get at
the local office supply store) will do the same thing. I'm not sure if
you want anything that big in your office or hack lair, but it sure is
fun to put stuff other than paper in those things and watch.
(Small pets and children not recommended.)
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11:22 a.m.
>> Fun! Any old heavy duty (and I mean heavy
duty, not the
>> ones you get at the local office supply store) will do the
>> same thing. I'm not sure if you want anything that big in
>> your office or hack lair, but it sure is fun to put stuff
>> other than paper in those things and watch.
>>
>> (Small pets and children not recommended.)
>>
Lets not discuss the merits of ex-spouses, ex-employeers/employees, etc
either.....
3:16 p.m.
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, David V. Corbin wrote:
Where can you get one adequate to handle cow-
orkers?
>> Fun!
Any old heavy duty (and I mean heavy duty, not the
>> ones you get at the local office supply store) will do the
>> same thing. I'm not sure if you want anything that big in
>> your office or hack lair, but it sure is fun to put stuff
>> other than paper in those things and watch.
>> (Small pets and children not recommended.)
Lets not discuss the merits of
ex-spouses, ex-employeers/employees, etc
either..... 
3:16 p.m.
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Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote:
(Small pets and children not recommended.)
Keep business suits, ties, disgruntled ex-girlfriends, ex-spouses, et cetera
well away too. Especially the ex-somethings, many of them have a software
glitch that causes them to go into a rampage, destroying anything and
everything, when told "Let's just be friends, ok?". No-one has - as yet -
managed to find a firmware patch to alleviate this bug.
:)
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