12 Apr
2003
12 Apr
'03
1:03 p.m.
Hi.
I ran across an Amiga 2000 yesterday, with the front of the case
silk-screened "Video Toaster Powered". No cables, keyboard, docs, or
anything else, but the price was right.
The motherboard is probably junk. The battery has leaked and etched
a pretty large area, plus the GVP 030 accelerator (A3001) has dumped
rubber sludge on the board. The rubber button on the back of the board
*melted* and ran like hot fudge.
http://amiga.resource.cx/gallery/A3001-50-back.jpg shows the button
intact. Beware; that's a half-meg pic.
There is a RAM-32 daughterboard, too, with 2x 4MB SIMMs,
http://amiga.resource.cx/gallery/A3001-RAM32.jpg
and a GVP SCSI hardcard with a 340MB drive and no DRAMs installed.
The Video Toaster boardset is labeled v1.0, but there's a sticker
that reads "Eval Board 08/90" It's cabled to a Faruodja Labs board, a
"Y/C Separator Board".
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo.pl?id=ycp100
Also installed are 2 ISA cards by RGB Computers and Video.
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo.pl?id=amilink
The short card I have has only 3 BNC connectors - positions 1. 3, and
5, and the long card has only the bottom two.
I have another working 2000, so I could replace the motherboard, but
I'm not sure I'd gain anything. I have a bunch of questions. I'm not
really an "Amiga person", so don't assume any reasonable level of prior
knowledge.
Where the heck is the video out? I know zip about Video Toaster and
even less about the Amilink adapters. All the online documentation
assumes I know the basics, like how to hook the durned thing up....
Are there docs for the original VT? Software?
I have an OpalVision, with documentation and software. Which is the
better board for general futzing around? For animation & graphics?
Any docs or software at all for the Amilink setup?
Are the SIMMs for the A3001 unobtainium? I have a 33MHz CSI
"Derringer 030" in the other 2000, but I don't like the clearance
between the top of the accelerator and the drive bay - basically none.
Plus, a 50MHz 68030 would be much nicer than a 33MHz. The hardware
database page claims that the RAM-32 board needs 4x 1MB SIMMs installed
to use the 2 4MB sticks, but this one just has 2x 4MB in the top two
slots. Is the database page smoking crack?
I haven't seen any pics or mention of the A2000 with the Toaster
label on front. I get the impression that this machine is pretty much
original - that it wasn't built a piece at a time. Anyone know
anything about that?
Thanks. Any pointers or help would be appreciated.
12 Apr
12 Apr
1:27 p.m.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Doc Shipley wrote:
Where the heck is the video out? I know zip about
Video Toaster and
even less about the Amilink adapters. All the online documentation
assumes I know the basics, like how to hook the durned thing up....
If it's in there, it's a card on the opposite side of the power supply
from the other cards in the machine. Should have 6 BNC
connectors on it,
the bottom two are Program and Preview outputs (I *think* in that
order,
can never remember).
Are there docs for the original VT? Software?
I've got some of each, contact me off-list.
I have an OpalVision, with documentation and
software. Which is the
better board for general futzing around? For animation & graphics?
Never heard of that. The VideoToaster is good for (live) video
switching/effects, titling, and that's about all. There's a 3D animation
package, but you're probably better off with a good modern PC with a good
video card. Things take AGES to render on something that slow.
Are the SIMMs for the A3001 unobtainium? I have a
33MHz CSI
Those look a lot like 72pin SIMM slots. Have you tried parity or
non-parity 72pin SIMMS from a PC or MAC yet?
"Derringer 030" in the other 2000, but I
don't like the clearance
between the top of the accelerator and the drive bay - basically none.
That's what electrical tape is for...
Pat
--
Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS
Information Technology at Purdue
Research Computing and Storage
http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu
1:47 p.m.
On Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 05:30 PM, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
OK.
No, they're a proprietary form factor. 64-pin, IIRC. Bigger than
30-pin, smaller than 72-pin. Bah!
It's more a matter of ventilation than insulation. I'm sort of
paranoid about processors with no room for airflow.
Doc
If it's in there, it's a card on the opposite
side of the power supply
from the other cards in the machine. Should have 6 BNC connectors on
it,
the bottom two are Program and Preview outputs (I *think* in that
order,
can never remember).
Oh, yeah, the board set is there. I just can't find any specific
diagrams or instructions.
Are there docs for the original VT? Software?
I've got some of each, contact me off-list. Never heard of that. The VideoToaster is good for
(live) video
switching/effects, titling, and that's about all. There's a 3D
animation
package, but you're probably better off with a good modern PC with a
good
video card. Things take AGES to render on something that slow.
If I want to do serious rendering, I'll probably fire up the
AS2100A.... This is strictly a toy.
Are the
SIMMs for the A3001 unobtainium? I have a 33MHz CSI
Those look a lot like 72pin SIMM slots. Have you tried parity or
non-parity 72pin SIMMS from a PC or MAC yet?
"Derringer 030" in the other 2000, but I don't like the clearance
between the top of the accelerator and the drive bay - basically none.
That's what electrical tape is for... 
9:02 p.m.
At 05:44 PM 4/12/03 -0500, you wrote:
On Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 05:30 PM, Patrick
Finnegan wrote:
No, they're a proprietary form factor. 64-pin, IIRC. Bigger than
30-pin, smaller than 72-pin. Bah!
64 pin SIMMs can be found in Mac IIfxs and some AST 386/486 PCs, though I
doubt either are that easy to find now. Can't say whether these 64 pin
SIMMs are the same as the ones used on your card either..
Are
the SIMMs for the A3001 unobtainium? I have a 33MHz CSI
Those look a lot like 72pin SIMM slots. Have you tried parity or
non-parity 72pin SIMMS from a PC or MAC yet? 
15 Apr
15 Apr
5:51 p.m.
New subject: Classic Spring Cleaning photos
Well, it is that time again I suppose. While going through stuff, I'm
taking pictures:
http://technoid.dyndns.org
So far I have the Sparc, the AtariSt, and the Data General MV4000/dc
featured. I think the MV4000 has the prettiest memory board of all time
short of those nifty ruby-rod cores I once saw....
BTW, this website is running on an Atari Mega ST4 running MiNT.
Regards and best wishes all,
Jeff
8:28 p.m.
New subject: Classic Spring Cleaning photos
On Tuesday, April 15, 2003, at 07:51 PM, Jeffrey S. Worley wrote:
Well, it is that time again I suppose. While going
through stuff, I'm
taking pictures:
http://technoid.dyndns.org
So far I have the Sparc, the AtariSt, and the Data General MV4000/dc
is this the "soul of a new machine" machine?
featured. I think the MV4000 has the prettiest memory
board of all time
short of those nifty ruby-rod cores I once saw....
BTW, this website is running on an Atari Mega ST4 running MiNT.
Regards and best wishes all,
Jeff
16 Apr
16 Apr
1:56 p.m.
New subject: Classic Spring Cleaning photos
Yes and no. This machine is also an Eagle but was made a teensy bit
later on. The original Eagle was a rackmount machine. All the boards
will interchange though. Mine came without the 9track drive and with
2mb ram. I ripped the 9track out of an mv9800? And the ram card as
well.
I got this machine BECAUSE of Tracy Kidder's book.
Regards,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Ron Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:26 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Classic Spring Cleaning photos
On Tuesday, April 15, 2003, at 07:51 PM, Jeffrey S. Worley wrote:
Well, it is that time again I suppose. While going
through stuff, I'm
taking pictures:
http://technoid.dyndns.org
So far I have the Sparc, the AtariSt, and the Data General MV4000/dc
is this the "soul of a new machine" machine?
featured. I think the MV4000 has the prettiest memory
board of all
time
short of those nifty ruby-rod cores I once saw....
BTW, this website is running on an Atari Mega ST4 running MiNT.
Regards and best wishes all,
Jeff
12 Apr
12 Apr
11:26 p.m.
New subject: Amiga 2000 "Video Toaster Powered"
Doc Shipley writes:
Hi.
I ran across an Amiga 2000 yesterday, with the front of the case
silk-screened "Video Toaster Powered". No cables, keyboard, docs, or
anything else, but the price was right.
You're kinda SOL without a keyboard as a PC keyboard will not interchange.
You can get an adapter that translates the keycodes from PC to Amiga and
then use a cheap PC keyboard for about the same price you'd pay for an Amiga
2000/3000 keyboard. The mouse is incompatible as well, and if you had the
keyboard you could work around that.
The motherboard is probably junk. The battery has
leaked and etched a
pretty large area, plus the GVP 030 accelerator (A3001) has dumped rubber
sludge on the board. The rubber button on the back of the board *melted*
and ran like hot fudge.
Does it boot up -- should give you a picture of a hand inserting a workbench
1.2 or 2.x disk out both the RGB and the composite video jacks.
http://amiga.resource.cx/gallery/A3001-50-back.jpg shows the button
intact. Beware; that's a half-meg pic.
There is a RAM-32 daughterboard, too, with 2x 4MB SIMMs,
http://amiga.resource.cx/gallery/A3001-RAM32.jpg
and a GVP SCSI hardcard with a 340MB drive and no DRAMs installed.
The Video Toaster boardset is labeled v1.0, but there's a sticker that
reads "Eval Board 08/90" It's cabled to a Faruodja Labs board, a
"Y/C
Separator Board"
That gives you s-video output --- seperates the chroma from the luminance
information, like on S-VHS recorders. A bit better video quality doing
things this way..
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo.pl?id=ycp100
Also installed are 2 ISA cards by RGB Computers and Video.
These are probably TBC's needed for two tape inputs for the Toaster. They
only got DC power from the ISA buss.
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo.pl?id=amilink
The short card I have has only 3 BNC connectors - positions 1. 3, and 5,
and the long card has only the bottom two.
Got me there.
I have another working 2000, so I could replace the
motherboard, but I'm
not sure I'd gain anything. I have a bunch of questions. I'm not really
an "Amiga person", so don't assume any reasonable level of prior
knowledge.
Where the heck is the video out?
The connectors on the Toaster should be Inputs 1-4 , preview, and video
output top to bottom. All inputs have to be sync timed to the #1 input,
which is the reference that the Toaster works from. The monitor has to be
RGB, attached to the DB23 ouput connector. Composite video is available at
the RCA jack, but is not color encoded (b&w)
Are there docs for the original VT? Software?
I don't have copies yet, but it is out there. You can get a CD ROM from
Newtek for $100 that has all the versions of the software.
I have an OpalVision, with documentation and
software. Which is the
better board for general futzing around? For animation & graphics?
Stick with the native gfx for general futzing/games/etc. The Opalvision and
other gfx boards just provide greater resolution/color resolution, and
usually feed a VGA/SVGA mornitor. Native video mode is NTSC rates RGB
analog output. You'll soon find out why Amigas needed a flickerfixer.
Any docs or software at all for the Amilink setup?
I'm sure there is -- might check aminet.org for anything pertinenet.
Are the SIMMs for the A3001 unobtainium? I have a
33MHz CSI "Derringer
030" in the other 2000, but I don't like the clearance between the top of
the accelerator and the drive bay - basically none. Plus, a 50MHz 68030
would be much nicer than a 33MHz. The hardware database page claims that
the RAM-32 board needs 4x 1MB SIMMs installed to use the 2 4MB sticks, but
this one just has 2x 4MB in the top two slots. Is the database page
smoking crack?
I think GVP-M still has those SIMMs available, as they used those in quite a
few of their products. They ain't cheap.
I haven't seen any pics or mention of the A2000
with the Toaster label
on front. I get the impression that this machine is pretty much original
- that it wasn't built a piece at a time. Anyone know anything about
that?
The Amigas with the Toaster racing stripe were OEM machines built by Newtek
and sold turnkey with whatever was needed to make things all work. The GVP
SCSI controller was needed for HD access, and the 030 made things a bit
livlier than the 7 mHz 68000 in the stock A2k.
Thanks. Any pointers or help would be appreciated.
Glad to help out there. I have 15 Toaster cards here collecting dust . . .
. .
Gary Hildebrand
St. Joseph, MO
13 Apr
13 Apr
12:01 a.m.
On Sunday, April 13, 2003, at 03:22 AM, Gary Dean Hildebrand wrote:
Haven't powered it at all. I want to at least get the rubber sludge
off the board first, and replace the onboard battery. I'm much more
concerned about the etching around the battery than anything else.
So if I can find docs for that board, I can get output with a
standard S-video cable?
Ah. I kind of thought that. It's an AT card-edge, which would be
incredibly slow graphics.
They're definitely some iteration of the Amilink set. I wonder if
they are the CI set, which only supported one particular VCR.
Oh, yeah, I saw that on their website. I can get a later-rev Video
Toaster off eBay, with software, documentation, and cables, for much
less.
Speaking of revisions, does the fact that it's labeled an eval board
mean anything? In terms of drivers and software, and in terms of value?
I wasn't able to resolve www.aminet.org, and it was down last month
too. Know of a working mirror?
Cables? Later revision?
Thanks again for the information. Every Little Bit Helps. :)
Doc
Doc Shipley writes:
I have a keyboard that belongs to the other 2000, and several mice.
What I don't have is the cables for the Toaster.
Hi.
I ran across an Amiga 2000 yesterday, with the front of the case
silk-screened "Video Toaster Powered". No cables, keyboard, docs, or
anything else, but the price was right.
You're kinda SOL without a keyboard as a PC keyboard will not
interchange. You can get an adapter that translates the keycodes from
PC to Amiga and then use a cheap PC keyboard for about the same price
you'd pay for an Amiga 2000/3000 keyboard. The mouse is incompatible
as well, and if you had the keyboard you could work around that. The
motherboard is probably junk. The battery has leaked and
etched a pretty large area, plus the GVP 030 accelerator (A3001) has
dumped rubber sludge on the board. The rubber button on the back of
the board *melted* and ran like hot fudge.
Does it boot up -- should give you a picture of a hand inserting a
workbench 1.2 or 2.x disk out both the RGB and the composite video
jacks. The Video
Toaster boardset is labeled v1.0, but there's a sticker
that reads "Eval Board 08/90" It's cabled to a Faruodja Labs board,
a "Y/C Separator Board"
That gives you s-video output --- seperates the chroma from the
luminance information, like on S-VHS recorders. A bit better video
quality doing things this way..
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo.pl?id=ycp100 Also installed are
2 ISA cards by RGB Computers and Video.
These are probably TBC's needed for two tape inputs for the Toaster.
They only got DC power from the ISA buss.
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo.pl?id=amilink The short card
I have has only 3 BNC connectors - positions 1. 3, and 5, and the
long card has only the bottom two.
Got me there. The connectors on the Toaster should be Inputs 1-4 ,
preview, and
video output top to bottom. All inputs have to be sync timed to the
#1 input, which is the reference that the Toaster works from. The
monitor has to be RGB, attached to the DB23 ouput connector.
Composite video is available at the RCA jack, but is not color encoded
(b&w)
OK, thanks. This means that I can attach my 1084 to the standard
connector, without any cabling for the Video Toaster, right? The
documentation to the OpalVision card in the other A2000 warns against
that, so I didn't want to experiment much.
Are there
docs for the original VT? Software?
I don't have copies yet, but it is out there. You can get a CD ROM
from Newtek for $100 that has all the versions of the software. Stick with the native gfx for general
futzing/games/etc. The
Opalvision and other gfx boards just provide greater resolution/color
resolution, and usually feed a VGA/SVGA mornitor. Native video mode
is NTSC rates RGB analog output. You'll soon find out why Amigas
needed a flickerfixer.
BTDT, with the flicker.... The OpalVision is 23-pin RGB output, and
so far I haven't found anything to gripe about with it.
Any docs or
software at all for the Amilink setup?
I'm sure there is -- might check aminet.org for anything pertinenet. I think GVP-M still has those SIMMs available, as they
used those in
quite a few of their products. They ain't cheap.
'Fraid of that. I'm terribly tempted to shift some chips around. I
know the Derringer supports a 50MHz CPU....
My mix & match options are to run the GVP '030 with its 8MB, plus the
8MB on my other GVP HC+8 hardcard, or to swap the 50MHz proc onto the
Derringer with its 16MB, giving me a total of 24MB. I'm just not all
that thrilled with the way the Derringer sits on the board.
Any opinion there?
Thanks. Any
pointers or help would be appreciated.
Glad to help out there. I have 15 Toaster cards here collecting dust
. . . . .
5 a.m.
On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, Doc Shipley wrote:
Cables? Later revision?
The connectors are just standard BNC composite video, like any pro video
editing equipment (that's not old enough to use UHF connectors). Just go
find yourself BNC->RCA's if you're going to use it with 'consumer'
video
equipment, you can get them for probably $20 each ;-) at RadioShack or for
a lot cheaper from anywhere else - including http://www.allcorp.com, one
of my favorite surplus mail-order places.
Pat
--
Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS
Information Technology at Purdue
Research Computing and Storage
http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu
5:24 a.m.
New subject: Update: Re: Amiga 2000 "Video Toaster Powered"
On Sunday, April 13, 2003, at 09:04 AM, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
The connectors are just standard BNC composite video,
like any pro
video
editing equipment (that's not old enough to use UHF connectors). Just
go
find yourself BNC->RCA's if you're going to use it with 'consumer'
video
equipment, you can get them for probably $20 each ;-) at RadioShack or
for
a lot cheaper from anywhere else - including http://www.allcorp.com,
one
of my favorite surplus mail-order places.
Cool. I've actually never seen one before. :)
I disassembled the computer, pulled the system board, and cleaned the
rubber sludge with isopropyl alcohol and an old soft toothbrush.
When I got it out in the light, the etching around the battery is
more ugly than functional. There is damage, but I think it's mostly
cosmetic.
Next order of business, while the parts dry, is to shoot Newtek an
email and see if they have any documentation for this particular box,
specifically the cabling arrangements and application of the RGB
Computer & Video controllers. And if they're going to want my
firstborn in trade for info.
Second order of biz is to mount the system drive in the other A2000
and commit sacrilege - make a backup. Snoop around on it in the
process, of course.
In a couple of days, I'll install another battery (if I can find one!
RatShack here is getting notably allergic to legacy parts.....), put
it all together, plug it in, and see if any smoke falls out.
Pat
--
Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS
BTW, my spellchecker *really* wants you to respell "university" ;^)
Doc
12:47 p.m.
New subject: Update: Re: Amiga 2000 "Video Toaster Powered"
On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, Doc Shipley wrote:
Would it prefer "unaversity"? (the FBI spelling that led to the naming of
"the unabomber")
Purdue
Universtiy ITAP/RCS
BTW, my spellchecker *really* wants you to respell
"university" ;^)
1:28 p.m.
New subject: Update: Re: Amiga 2000 "Video Toaster Powered"
On Sunday, April 13, 2003, at 04:42 PM, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, Doc Shipley wrote:
Would it prefer "unaversity"? (the FBI spelling that led to the naming
of
"the unabomber")
Links? That's just too cool to leave alone....
Doc
Purdue
Universtiy ITAP/RCS
BTW, my spellchecker *really* wants you to respell
"university"
;^)
1:54 p.m.
New subject: Update: Re: Amiga 2000 "Video Toaster Powered"
On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, Doc Shipley wrote:
Hmmm. Don't have any good documentation. The FBI had a press conference
when they first started calling him "the Unabomber", before they knew of
Ted Kaczynski. In the background was a blackboard, on which the largest
writing was the word "Unaversity". In a LATER press conference, they
started talking about "university and airline bomber", possibly as a
backpedaling of their previous spelling error.
Would it
prefer "unaversity"? (the FBI spelling that led to the naming
of
"the unabomber")
Links? That's just too cool to leave alone....
6:29 a.m.
New subject: Amiga 2000 "Video Toaster Powered"
Doc Shipley writes:
So if I can find docs for that board, I can get output with a standard
S-video cable? Yes.
Also installed are 2 ISA cards by RGB Computers and Video.
Cables? Later revision?
I'll have to check the revision -- get back to you later today on that, when
I dig them out. One card is still in the factory static bag, never used in
a machine. I'm not sure, but one of my Toaster 2k's had a Washburn
University inventory tag on it, and I think they were surplussed out of
Washburn U in Topeka. Seems they had a whole slew of them at one point in
time, and I got extra parts and stuff, along with some Flyer cards. The
Flyer was used with the Toaster to make a true non-linear digital editing
system. That needs at least an 030 and 16 Megs RAM to play fairly well. A
complete Toaster/Flyer system still commands several thousand bucks used.
I'm thinking about building one, but I'm in need of three good sized fast
SCSI drives for video/audio file storage, enough to hold around an hour of
video.
Use BNC cables with RG59 (75 ohm) for everything, and stay away from RCA
phono style plugs. The BNC's with the twist/ears keeps things together.
After that is all hooked up then you'll have to time the system, which is
best done with a dual trace scope. Also having a good sync generator with a
blackburst output is highly suggested to feed input #1 for timing purposes.
You aren't out of the woods yet getting that thing up and running.
When the Toaster came out a lot of video novices expected a plug and play
unit, which it isn't. I think they became old technology when digital video
cams came out and all editing/effects were done in the digital domain,
instead of on the NTSC analog signal. You might contact a local TV station
or video production house to see if you can rent an engineer (like me!) for
a few hours to help get you through the tough parts.
On Sunday, April 13, 2003, at 03:22 AM, Gary Dean
Hildebrand wrote:
> Doc Shipley writes:
The Video Toaster boardset is labeled v1.0, but
there's a sticker that
reads "Eval Board 08/90" It's cabled to a Faruodja Labs board, a
"Y/C
Separator Board"
That gives you s-video output --- seperates the chroma from the luminance
information, like on S-VHS recorders. A bit better video quality doing
things this way..
These are probably TBC's needed for two tape inputs for the Toaster.
They only got DC power from the ISA buss.
Ah. I kind of thought that. It's an AT card-edge, which would be
incredibly slow graphics. Not necessarily. Most PC gfx cards only shuffle control data,
not the actual digital vidio on the ISA buss. You're not going to get good animation,
but the older Targa/Vista boards did wonderful things with still graphics.
OK, thanks. This means that I can attach my 1084 to
the standard
connector, without any cabling for the Video Toaster, right? Yep. Only composite video
is input/output on the Toaster BNC jacks. You'll need a couple composite monitors,
one with a loop-through input (two jacks) for the program output. and the other for the
preview. The 1084 will only have the control panel displayed. Should be an array of
wipes, and a 6 input switcher and 'fader' bar to the right of it. The interface
is pretty user-friendly, if you've been around video switcher before.
Oh, yeah, I saw that on their website. I can get a later-rev Video
Toaster off eBay, with software, documentation, and cables, for much less.
Speaking of revisions, does the fact that it's labeled an eval board
mean anything? In terms of drivers and software, and in terms of value?
Are
there docs for the original VT? Software?
I don't have copies yet, but it is out there. You can get a CD ROM from
Newtek for $100 that has all the versions of the software.
I wasn't able to resolve www.aminet.org, and it was down last month too.
Know of a working mirror? There should be, I do know of one in Germany. Can't
remember the URL though.
Well you don't need that much memory for the Toaster. All video is done on
the Toaster card itself. The Toaster just translates the program control
into what is needed to manipulate the effects etc. 8 Meg would be MORE than
enough.
I think GVP-M still has those SIMMs available, as
they used those in
quite a few of their products. They ain't cheap.
'Fraid of that. I'm terribly tempted to shift some chips around. I
know the Derringer supports a 50MHz CPU....
My mix & match options are to run the GVP '030 with its 8MB, plus the
8MB on my other GVP HC+8 hardcard, or to swap the 50MHz proc onto the
Derringer with its 16MB, giving me a total of 24MB. I'm just not all that
thrilled with the way the Derringer sits on the board.
Any opinion there? Thanks.
Any pointers or help would be appreciated.
Glad to help out there. I have 15 Toaster cards here collecting dust . .
. . .
Thanks again for the information. Every Little Bit Helps. :)
Always glad to
help.
gh
15 Apr
15 Apr
9:11 a.m.
New subject: Amiga 2000 "Video Toaster Powered"
--- Gary Dean Hildebrand <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> wrote:
>> These are probably TBC's needed for two
tape inputs for the Toaster.
>> They only got DC power from the ISA buss.
>
> Ah. I kind of thought that. It's an AT card-edge, which would be
> incredibly slow graphics. Not necessarily. Most PC gfx cards only
> shuffle control data, not the actual digital vidio on the ISA buss.
Plus, without something like a GG2 Bus+ or an A2088/A2286 BridgeCard, the
AT bus in the Amiga is inert. The slots are wired to each other and to
power and ground, but nowhere else.
-ethan
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9:16 a.m.
New subject: Amiga 2000 "Video Toaster Powered"
--- Gary Dean Hildebrand <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> wrote:
You're kinda SOL without a keyboard... The mouse
is incompatible as
well...
If you can't locate a used Amiga mouse, it's possible to rewire a
MicroSoft Bus Mouse - they are electrically, but not physically,
compatible - raw quadrature output, X-PhaseA, X-PhaseB, Y-PhaseA,
Y-PhaseB, Left and Right button. The only active components are
IR LEDs and phototransistors. No chips.
There's also instructions out on the web to hack an Atari Trackball
to the Amiga - I've done it with one from a 7800 and from some other
console model (5300?) - unfortunately, my really nice hacked Wico
unit was stolen in 1990 when they got my A500... it was still
compatible with the Atari... I just put an additional DE-9 on the
side, and you just used the right connector, depending on the target.
*Great* for Marble Madness. :-)
-ethan
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12:13 p.m.
New subject: Amiga 2000 "Video Toaster Powered"
I have Amiga 2000 keyboards and mice available.
Who needs what where?!
Steve.
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You're kinda SOL without a keyboard... The
mouse
is incompatible as
well...
If you can't locate a used Amiga mouse, it's
possible to rewire a
MicroSoft Bus Mouse - they are electrically, but not
physically,
compatible - raw quadrature output, X-PhaseA,
X-PhaseB, Y-PhaseA,
Y-PhaseB, Left and Right button. The only active
components are
IR LEDs and phototransistors. No chips.
There's also instructions out on the web to hack an
Atari Trackball
to the Amiga - I've done it with one from a 7800 and
from some other
console model (5300?) - unfortunately, my really
nice hacked Wico
unit was stolen in 1990 when they got my A500... it
was still
compatible with the Atari... I just put an
additional DE-9 on the
side, and you just used the right connector,
depending on the target.
*Great* for Marble Madness. :-)
-ethan
The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo
http://search.yahoo.com
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