In the "not-quite" category there is always the TI Professional Around 1990 there were, AFAIK, several "superservers" that were supposed to de-VAX the buisiness world, running XENIX/UNIX on multiple 3/486s Mitac? made some, and NetFrame. Same period as the CPQ SystemPro. I think they were serial-terminal console. Remember reading about it in PC magazine back-issues. I suppose we should *like* PCs-a bit- so much of the underlying contortions are ca-1985 hacks, so it's not like we're running POWER, Alpha or PA-WideWord based machines with modified Open Firmware (add touches of SRM and SGI ARCS), extensible windowing system . . . -Scott Quinn