20 Oct
2018
20 Oct
'18
11:41 a.m.
From: Al Kossow
The quality of modern keycaps is poor.
These guys are after mechanical boards with double-shot keytops.
There's something I'm still not quite grasping.
I can see two reasons for people liking the old keyboards:
- i) Higher quality construction
- ii) Connection, through a historial artifact, to an earlier age
Am I missing any?
I can definitely see the first (I myself find many modern keyboards to be
complete crap), but if that's _all_ it is, I'd think there'd be a market for
modern production of quality keyboards - not a large market, true, but I'd
think it would be large enough to be worth servicing? (Unless the cost to
produce such would be so high that there wouldn't be any buyers - but that
seems at odd with some of the prices being mentioned.)
So maybe people _only_ want keyboards that have both i) and ii)?
Noel
20 Oct
20 Oct
11:51 a.m.
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 9:42 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org wrote:
I recently got a decent gamers keyboard for $60. Nnice rocker switches.
Loud as hell, like the old model M battleships. Works great and has the
same feel as the old ones. Even fing glows in the dark. Has just the right
touch. No clue why you'd need a retro one to get the retro feel.
So there's something else. Some people are judgemental about it, others are
less judgmental. It's the separation from original context that I object
to.
Warner
From: Al
Kossow
The quality of modern keycaps is poor.
These guys are after mechanical boards with double-shot keytops.
There's something I'm still not quite grasping.
I can see two reasons for people liking the old keyboards:
- i) Higher quality construction
- ii) Connection, through a historial artifact, to an earlier age
Am I missing any?
I can definitely see the first (I myself find many modern keyboards to be
complete crap), but if that's _all_ it is, I'd think there'd be a market
for
modern production of quality keyboards - not a large market, true, but I'd
think it would be large enough to be worth servicing? (Unless the cost to
produce such would be so high that there wouldn't be any buyers - but that
seems at odd with some of the prices being mentioned.)
So maybe people _only_ want keyboards that have both i) and ii)?
12:09 p.m.
I am Definitely not a gamer! but my hands are
poor at typing and the benifit of hearing the key click helps the accuracy a little.. my
xps Dell has pretty loaded games but I have never played one yet.... use it for video
editing and internet.
l also like keyboard letters do not wear off of
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On Saturday, October 20, 2018 Warner Losh via cctalk <imp at bsdimp.com; cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 9:42 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org wrote:
I recently got a decent gamers keyboard for $60. Nnice rocker switches.
Loud as hell, like the old model M battleships. Works great and has the
same feel as the old ones. Even fing glows in the dark. Has just the right
touch. No clue why you'd need a retro one to get the retro feel.
So there's something else. Some people are judgemental about it, others are
less judgmental. It's the separation from original context that I object
to.
Warner
From: Al
Kossow
The quality of modern keycaps is poor.
These guys are after mechanical boards with double-shot keytops.
There's something I'm still not quite grasping.
I can see two reasons for people liking the old keyboards:
- i) Higher quality construction
- ii) Connection, through a historial artifact, to an earlier age
Am I missing any?
I can definitely see the first (I myself find many modern keyboards to be
complete crap), but if that's _all_ it is, I'd think there'd be a market
for
modern production of quality keyboards - not a large market, true, but I'd
think it would be large enough to be worth servicing? (Unless the cost to
produce such would be so high that there wouldn't be any buyers - but that
seems at odd with some of the prices being mentioned.)
So maybe people _only_ want keyboards that have both i) and ii)?
12:46 p.m.
On 10/20/18 10:41 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
i) There is certainly a very active market in good quality,
current-production keyboards, keyboard kits and keyboard parts. That
market is not just being serviced, it's moving past the niche category.
The level of ongoing development and the vendors' response to customer
input are phenomenal.
The level of "discernment" in the higher tiers of keyboard gear
reminds me a lot of the high-end audiophile market.... I'm mostly deaf
and my hands are scarred, arthritic, and desensitized and I don't play
video games, so I have no useful opinion about either one.
ii) My observation, by no means authoritative, is that the folk who
used those '80s keyboards in the '80s aren't the ones paying top dollar
for them. My grandson dreams of owning a '67 Dodge Charger. A 440cid
'68 was my daily driver for a couple of years, and I don't want one at
all. Same-same.
Doc
From: Al
Kossow
The quality of modern keycaps is poor.
These guys are after mechanical boards with double-shot keytops.
There's something I'm still not quite grasping.
I can see two reasons for people liking the old keyboards:
- i) Higher quality construction
- ii) Connection, through a historial artifact, to an earlier age
Am I missing any?
I can definitely see the first (I myself find many modern keyboards to be
complete crap), but if that's _all_ it is, I'd think there'd be a market for
modern production of quality keyboards - not a large market, true, but I'd
think it would be large enough to be worth servicing? (Unless the cost to
produce such would be so high that there wouldn't be any buyers - but that
seems at odd with some of the prices being mentioned.)
So maybe people _only_ want keyboards that have both i) and ii)?
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