29 Nov
2000
29 Nov
'00
1:27 a.m.
I think I still have the disks somewhere.... I just don't have
an Apple-II to use to verify their readability.
It wasn't bad, I rather enjoyed using it (my last semester in
college, Spring '83).
-dq
-----Original Message-----
From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 11:50 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Why is it that ...
Yes the lack of JAVA, frames, no cookies and
Activex stuff
does limits
sites available and more every day. I'd
think JAVA would
not be that
bad on a smaller CPU tough it may be slow. After
all it's
not that much
different than running UCSD PASCAL (P-system)
P-code on z80 or
6502!
Allison
One of these days I'd really like to play with a UCSD PASCAL
system, largely
to get a feel of how well it worked. From what I've heard
getting any kind
of Java running on a 68k based system is a problem (have we
got anyone still
active with Amiga's around, they'd have a better idea). That
tells me that
a 486 or lower won't really be able to cut it when it comes to JAVA.
It does make you wonder what Sun's minimum requirements for
Java is on thier
machines.
Wait a minute.... I think I had Java running on my PowerBook
520c back in
'95 or '96, and it's a 68LC040 based system, so I guess at
least a 68040 or
486 based system probably can do Java. At least on a
supported OS (which is
the real problem).
Zane
29 Nov
29 Nov
4:04 a.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
I think I still have the disks somewhere.... I just
don't have
an Apple-II to use to verify their readability.
It wasn't bad, I rather enjoyed using it (my last semester in
college, Spring '83).
-dq
So UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code ran on the Apple //? I'm guessing this
means it'll run on a //e or //gs? If so is there anywhere the software can
be downloaded from? Just might be the excuse I need to get that //gs back
up and running (gulp, I just buried it's SCSI drive).
Zane
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5:54 a.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Zane H. Healy wrote:
So UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code ran on the Apple //?
I'm guessing this
means it'll run on a //e or //gs? If so is there anywhere the software can
be downloaded from? Just might be the excuse I need to get that //gs back
up and running (gulp, I just buried it's SCSI drive).
Gawd, I don't know why anyone would actually want to use (or like) the
UCSD Pascal system on the Apple ][ since I found it to be so incredibly
horrid, but I do still have my system disks handy and I could make an
Apple ][ ShrinkIt! archive of them and stick it on my server.
Let me know and I'll do it...
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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8:07 a.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Two reasons for wanting to do this. One I'm somewhat curious about the
software, and two I'm *really* looking for an excuse to setup either the //e
or //gs! You mentioned really needing 4 drives, somehow I don't think
that's a problem :^)
So I for one would appreciate the ShrinkIt! archives of the disks.
Zane
So UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code ran on the Apple
//? I'm guessing this
means it'll run on a //e or //gs? If so is there anywhere the software can
be downloaded from? Just might be the excuse I need to get that //gs back
up and running (gulp, I just buried it's SCSI drive).
Gawd, I don't know why anyone would actually want to use (or like) the
UCSD Pascal system on the Apple ][ since I found it to be so incredibly
horrid, but I do still have my system disks handy and I could make an
Apple ][ ShrinkIt! archive of them and stick it on my server.
Let me know and I'll do it...
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival 
8:26 a.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
----- Original Message -----
From: <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
Two reasons for wanting to do this. One I'm
somewhat curious about the
software, and two I'm *really* looking for an excuse to setup either the
//e
or //gs!
An excuse for setting up a //e or //gs? Choplifter, man, CHOPLIFTER!!
[for the uninitiated: an excellent helicopter game where you fly around,
rescue hostages, and blow stuff up. Consumed many irreplaceable hours in my
youth. Also produced for the C-64, Atari 800, and most other 8 bitters]
Mark.
8:40 a.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Mark Gregory wrote:
An excuse for setting up a //e or //gs? Choplifter,
man, CHOPLIFTER!!
Yeah, Choplifter is definitely in the Top 10 of all-time best Apple ][
games (it was also ported to the Atari and Commodore, and probably
more...I've seen an Atari 5200 or 7800 version of it). Maybe even in the
top 5.
Another reason to boot up your Apple ][: Karateka, Lode Runner, and Rescue
Raiders.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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1:54 p.m.
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Sellam Ismail writes:
Yeah, Choplifter is definitely in the Top 10 of
all-time best Apple ][
games
Or as we used to call it... "Escape from Iran". :)
Another reason to boot up your Apple ][: Karateka,
Lode Runner, and Rescue
Raiders.
What about Sneakers? DROL? Bill Budge's Pinball Construction Set?
Andy
P.S. Anybody know whatever happened to the Beagle Brothers?
Were they really brothers? Or even beagles?
3:26 p.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Andreas Meyer wrote:
P.S. Anybody know whatever happened to the Beagle
Brothers?
Were they really brothers? Or even beagles?
Try looking under the Apple ][ section of the VCF Link Library:
http://www.vintage.org/cgi-bin/links.pl#apple
I know this isn't the greatest reference, but I do remember coming across
a site listed there that told the story (no they weren't brothers).
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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8 Dec
8 Dec
3:02 a.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
P.S. Anybody know whatever happened to the Beagle
Brothers?
Were they really brothers? Or even beagles?
It seams like they have even actual web soft available ...
http://marquis.tr.org/about1/about1.html
:))
Gruss H.
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29 Nov
29 Nov
8:47 a.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
An excuse for setting up a //e or //gs? Choplifter,
man, CHOPLIFTER!!
[for the uninitiated: an excellent helicopter game where you fly around,
rescue hostages, and blow stuff up. Consumed many irreplaceable hours in my
youth. Also produced for the C-64, Atari 800, and most other 8 bitters]
Mark.
Yeah, but I've got it for the Gameboy which takes up a lot less space :^)
Hmm, the Gameboy is old enough to be on topic considering I've had one since
late '87 or '88 I believe, though I've only had the Choplifter game for it
since '93.
Oh, and I first had it for my VIC-20 on cassette tape :^)
Zane
9:05 a.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
On Wed, 29 Nov
2000, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Two reasons for wanting to do this. One I'm somewhat curious about the
software, and two I'm *really* looking for an excuse to setup either the //e
or //gs! You mentioned really needing 4 drives, somehow I don't think
that's a problem :^)
So I for one would appreciate the ShrinkIt! archives of the disks.
Zane
So UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code ran on the Apple
//? I'm guessing this
means it'll run on a //e or //gs? If so is there anywhere the software can
be downloaded from? Just might be the excuse I need to get that //gs back
up and running (gulp, I just buried it's SCSI drive).
Gawd, I don't know why anyone would actually want to use (or like) the
UCSD Pascal system on the Apple ][ since I found it to be so incredibly
horrid, but I do still have my system disks handy and I could make an
Apple ][ ShrinkIt! archive of them and stick it on my server.
Let me know and I'll do it...
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival 
8:33 a.m.
New subject: UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code Was:(Why is it that ...)
Gawd, I don't know why anyone would actually want
to use (or like) the
UCSD Pascal system on the Apple ][ since I found it to be so incredibly
horrid, but I do still have my system disks handy and I could make an
Apple ][ ShrinkIt! archive of them and stick it on my server.
Not to mention slow. I've got the P-system disks for Apple as well.
I've also got them in disk image format for yae if anyone wants to run
them on an emulator. Just the joy of experiencing the worst editor ever
made should be enough for anyone to run screaming.
Eric
Let me know and I'll do it...
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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7:14 p.m.
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Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Was it that bad?
When I was much younger and happy with my S100 CP/M + Pascal/M (?? the
p-code like compiler, not mt+) I always wanted to get a UCSD but
never 'found' one around......
e.
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So UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code ran on the Apple
//? I'm guessing this
means it'll run on a //e or //gs? If so is there anywhere the software can
be downloaded from? Just might be the excuse I need to get that //gs back
up and running (gulp, I just buried it's SCSI drive).
Gawd, I don't know why anyone would actually want to use (or like) the
UCSD Pascal system on the Apple ][ since I found it to be so incredibly
horrid, but I do still have my system disks handy and I could make an
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