13 Mar
1999
13 Mar
'99
5:03 a.m.
Since I don't have a class two license, I can't
get a truck with a
lift gate,
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Several times I've rented a
lift-gate truck, usually from Budget, to move a machine. Now this
was always on the West Coast, and it's possible that on the other
coast that the laws are different, or that the truck companies
just don't want to risk renting to folks who probably don't know
how to run a lift. You might also try some of the non-UHaul-non-Budget-
non-Ryder companies in your neighborhood (the kind that rent tractors
and bulldozers) and see if they'll rent you a liftgate.
so I was planning on unloaded all the boxes from the
racks
(CPU, disks, anything else) and placing them on shipping pads, the
disks with foam pads underneath. I was planning on tipping the racks
over onto dollies to be wheeled up the ramp into the truck where they
would travel on their sides, on mats.
Sounds like a fine plan. Note that many medium-sized station wagons
will hold a single H960, too. Get yourself nice dollies with pneumatic
wheels if at all possible.
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13 Mar
13 Mar
8:17 a.m.
Sounds like a fine plan. Note that many medium-sized
station wagons
will hold a single H960, too.
And a friend has an SUV that holds *two* H960s. :-)
If I ever buy an SUV, my criteria for minimum acceptable cargo space is
that it must hold two H960s, or one 2M tall coin-operated video game,
or one oversized cocktail-table style video game (the old Atari Football
with the *giant* trackballs).
By the way, if you use a station wagon or SUV in this fashion, it is
advisable to flatten some large cardboard boxes to line the bed so that
you don't damage the carpet/upholstery. This is in addition to any
padding to protect the cargo.
9:23 a.m.
At 07:17 PM 3/13/99 -0000, you wrote:
Past experience has shown that my 1979 Chevy Surburban will hold 2 fully
loaded H960 racks, plus numerous random other items stuffed in the various
other random spaces quite nicely! B^}
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Sounds like a
fine plan. Note that many medium-sized station wagons
will hold a single H960, too.
And a friend has an SUV that holds *two* H960s. :-) 
15 Mar
15 Mar
4:22 a.m.
Past experience has shown that my 1979 Chevy Surburban
will hold 2 fully
loaded H960 racks, plus numerous random other items stuffed in the various
other random spaces quite nicely! B^}
2 KS-10s will fit into a Grand Caravan, but its a TIGHT fit!
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
13 Mar
13 Mar
9:25 a.m.
Sounds like a
fine plan. Note that many medium-sized station wagons
will hold a single H960, too.
And a friend has an SUV that holds *two* H960s. :-)
If I ever buy an SUV, my criteria for minimum acceptable cargo space is
that it must hold two H960s, or one 2M tall coin-operated video game,
or one oversized cocktail-table style video game (the old Atari Football
with the *giant* trackballs). 
10:37 a.m.
Once upon a midnight dreary, Zane H. Healy had spoken clearly:
in the back of my current pickup. I'm wondering if
the smaller pickups
along the lines of a Chevy S-10 can handle that.
Altho they did make longbox (8 foot) boxes on the S-10 line, they're pretty
tough to find. Otherwise, an S10 will fit anything 6 foot even... or maybe
an inch or two over. If you have room for a little diagonal work, you may
able to squeeze 6 foot 6 inches.
Weight-wise - I've found the S10 line to be quite capable. They're standard
1/2-ton, but I've had over 3/4 ton in the back of mine, once... I pulled
full-size trucks out of the ditch; and my pickup was the lowest-end pickup
available - 2.5 litre engine, 5 speed stick, didn't even have a bumper! The
most I towed with mine (trailered) was 2.5 ton, I think. Didn't go very
fast (especially up hills... ;-) but it pulled fine. BTW, receiver hitches
are the only way to go for towing--- especially when you don't have a bumper!
Excellent truck, but don't get "Steel Gray" - the paint falls off. ;-)
They make a good rescue vehicle, as mine averaged 32mpg highway...
For comparison, full-size Chevy short-boxes are roughly 6 foot 6 inches,
IIRC, and std. boxes are 8 foot.
HTH,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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8:39 p.m.
Please be carefull when moving heaving equipment.
Don't trust lift gates to remain remotely level. I've watched or seen the
results of things rolling off, not pretty.
Tie things down SECURELY. Large items that seem impossible to move,
cheerfully tip over when the truck hits a pothole, and they smash anything
under them too.
14 Mar
14 Mar
12:07 p.m.
At 23:39 13/03/99 -0800, Mike Ford wrote:
Please be carefull when moving heaving equipment.
Don't trust lift gates to remain remotely level. I've watched or seen the
results of things rolling off, not pretty.
I can confirm from very personal experience that an SA482 can make a big
hole in the ground...
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au
Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479
1999
La Trobe University | "If God had wanted soccer played in the
Melbourne Australia 3083 | air, the sky would be painted green"
13 Mar
13 Mar
2:14 p.m.
So is the H960 the rack that is about 4 feet high?
I'm looking into
4'? Nope... The H960 is 6' x 19" by 22"
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14 Mar
14 Mar
12:51 p.m.
At 11:03 AM 3/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
I've rented and driven trucks with lift gates from both Budget and Ryder
in the last three weeks with no problems and nothing but a standard
license. Perhaps you may need a special permit if you're going across state
lines.
Joe
Since I
don't have a class two license, I can't get a truck with a
lift gate,
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Several times I've rented a
lift-gate truck, usually from Budget, to move a machine. Now this
was always on the West Coast, 
10:55 a.m.
Joe wrote:
At 11:03 AM 3/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
I've rented and driven trucks with lift gates from both Budget and Ryder
in the last three weeks with no problems and nothing but a standard
license. Perhaps you may need a special permit if you're going across state
lines.
Joe
I've worked for a rental company. Drove every truck/van they had except for
the dump trucks, and huge Internationals they had, I needed to get a chauffeurs
license to drive those. Most were flat-beds, but the covered vans all had lift
gates on them. I've never had a problem, and don't see why you would. Just my
2 centavos.
Robert
Since I
don't have a class two license, I can't get a truck with a
lift gate,
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Several times I've rented a
lift-gate truck, usually from Budget, to move a machine. Now this
was always on the West Coast, 
2:49 p.m.
Upon the date 05:51 PM 3/14/99 +0000, Joe said something like:
At 11:03 AM 3/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
I've rented and driven trucks with lift gates from both Budget and Ryder
in the last three weeks with no problems and nothing but a standard
license. Perhaps you may need a special permit if you're going across state
lines.
No permit needed. I took a 15' Ryder/liftgate over to PA to pick up the
truckload of DEC gear. I was told of limitations only when I inquired about
the 25' truck waiting to be rented. Because of it being above a certain
GVW I would need a CDL. I think its' having air brakes were mentioned too
as being a limitation for me.
I had to maintain a detailed mileage log and pay road use tax when I
brought the 15' truck back. Did you Joe?
Regards, Chris
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Since I
don't have a class two license, I can't get a truck with a
lift gate,
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Several times I've rented a
lift-gate truck, usually from Budget, to move a machine. Now this
was always on the West Coast,
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