22 Sep
2003
22 Sep
'03
6:13 a.m.
22 Sep
22 Sep
8:54 a.m.
Wow !
Who would have thought someone would pay so much the that collection.
Now if the seller had kept all the original boxes and manuals for each
Cartridge,
I would have been bidding on that collection.
I bet if I dug through all my old Atari 2600 stuff, I could easly come up
with 100 different cartridges.
I used to buy these at yard sales everytime I saw then cheep.
My last find at a yard sale was a mint 2600 still in the original box, and
about 25 Carts all for $5.. He He !!
9:10 a.m.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Keys wrote:
There is a ton of stuff included though. I'm really not too surprised that
someone would fork over that much money to acquire such a complete
collection in one go.
-Toth
10:02 a.m.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Keys wrote:
There is a ton of stuff included though. I'm really not too surprised that
someone would fork over that much money to acquire such a complete
collection in one go.
-Toth
It's worth noting that only two people went over $333. It's a nice
collection, but I'm not convinced it warrents the price.
Zane
4:17 p.m.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Tothwolf wrote:
True. And there is no way I'd pay that kind of price for a 2600, even as
complete as that one is. Though, I really have no idea what my own 2600
and all the games/etc cost back when I originally bought them new. All
totaled up, It very well may have been in the $400-500+ range. And yes, I
still have my original 2600, though I had to replace the graphics
processor back in the mid 1990s, as the old one died from over voltage. I
wish I'd known the +5V adjustment was set a little high way back when, as
it managed to kill probably 8-10 carts (all replaced) back in the 80s. I
had the same problem with my old C64, which I also figured out much later.
-Toth
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Keys wrote:
There is a ton of stuff included though. I'm really not too surprised
that someone would fork over that much money to acquire such a
complete collection in one go.
It's worth noting that only two people went over $333. It's a nice
collection, but I'm not convinced it warrents the price. 
10:52 a.m.
New subject: Apple IIe 3.5 inch FDD
Hi all,
Can anyone tell me the besat place to get info on the 3.5 inch FDD
for the Apple IIe?? Is it possibl;e to modify a standard IBM 3.5 inch FDD to
work with the apple?? Yes, I understand it would be a serious modification.
Has anyonme heard of it being done?? I understand the Apple II uses a
special drive interface, can this be conected up to the 3.5 inch drive
hardware and be used to drive them?? It's just so much easier to obtain 3.5
inch disks nowdays that a bit of fiddling around seems worth it.
Hope to hear from you all soon
Peter T.
12:31 p.m.
New subject: Apple IIe 3.5 inch FDD
ISTR that the Apple drive is a DSDD mechanism, and that GCR encoding is
used, not a standard FM/MFM. So you need the Apple drive no matter how
you slice it. And you need another disk controller card to match it.
I have a fist full of salvaged 3.5 drives, unknown condition that I know
should work on my IIc+ or a IIgs, but I don't know of any other use for
them. Maybe the IIe could only use the Unidrive 3.5.
Help me out there, apple nuts . . . .
Gary Hildebrand
St. JOseph, MO
Hi all,
Can anyone tell me the besat place to get info on the 3.5 inch FDD
for the Apple IIe?? Is it possibl;e to modify a standard IBM 3.5 inch FDD
to
work with the apple?? Yes, I understand it would be a serious
modification.
Has anyonme heard of it being done?? I understand the Apple II uses a
special drive interface, can this be conected up to the 3.5 inch drive
hardware and be used to drive them?? It's just so much easier to obtain
3.5
inch disks nowdays that a bit of fiddling around seems worth it.
Hope to hear from you all soon
Peter T.
1:34 p.m.
New subject: Apple IIe 3.5 inch FDD
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 ghldbrd(a)ccp.com wrote:
ISTR that the Apple drive is a DSDD mechanism, and
that GCR encoding is
used, not a standard FM/MFM. So you need the Apple drive no matter how
you slice it. And you need another disk controller card to match it.
ISTR that there was once an aftermarket disk controller for the ][ that
did Apple GCR using "industry standard" drives! THAT, if any could be
found, should work with a 720K 3.5" PC type drive.
The last time that I saw one was 20 years ago, and the guy who had it is
now dead.
Finding the Apple drive would be a LOT easier.
12:31 p.m.
New subject: Apple IIe 3.5 inch FDD
On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 06:52 PM, peter tremewen wrote:
Hi all,
Can anyone tell me the besat place to get info on the 3.5 inch
FDD
for the Apple IIe?? Is it possibl;e to modify a standard IBM 3.5 inch
FDD to
work with the apple?? Yes, I understand it would be a serious
modification.
Has anyonme heard of it being done?? I understand the Apple II uses a
special drive interface, can this be conected up to the 3.5 inch drive
hardware and be used to drive them?? It's just so much easier to
obtain 3.5
inch disks nowdays that a bit of fiddling around seems worth it.
Hope to hear from you all soon
Peter T.
Using an IBM drive would be a serious undertaking, as the recording
formats are totally different. Also, to talk to a 3.5 inch drive, you
need a special controller card in the Apple, you can't plug the drive
into a Disk II or Unidisk controller card. I have plenty of 800k Apple
drives in working order, if you want one, I'll be happy to send you one
for a few bucks plus shipping. As for the controller card, I _think_ I
have one kicking around in the basement somewhere, I'll let you know if
I find it, and someone else may be able to help you there if I can't
find it. Also, keep in mind that you can't use high density disks with
the Apple II - the drives are 800k, you need to use low density (720k
in the PC world) diskettes. High density disks can be used in a pinch
by taping over the hole, but it's not a good idea, as the media is
different enough that it won't be reliable. Another thing to think
about is that DOS 3.3 doesn't work with 3.5 inch floppy drives, only 5
1/4 drives. You will need to use ProDOS.
Ian Primus
ian_primus(a)yahoo.com
12:43 p.m.
New subject: Apple IIe 3.5 inch FDD
"peter tremewen" <ptremewe(a)bigpond.net.au> asks:
Is it possibl;e to modify a standard IBM 3.5 inch FDD
to
work with the apple?? Yes, I understand it would be a serious
modification.
Has anyonme heard of it being done?? I understand the Apple II uses a
special drive interface, can this be conected up to the 3.5 inch drive
hardware and be used to drive them?? It's just so much easier to obtain
3.5
inch disks nowdays that a bit of fiddling around seems worth it.
It's basically not possible. The Apple interface is not even
similar to the industry-standard interface. And the Apple requires
that 3.5-inch drives have a variable-speed motor, run at different
speeds for different track groups.
If you *must* connect a standard 3.5-inch floppy drive to a PC, there
are third-party interface cards that can do it. They work with Prodos
etc., but not with any software that expects direct control over the
drive mechanism (e.g., copy protection).
Can't you get Apple 3.5 drives at a flea market or something?
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