6 Mar
2002
6 Mar
'02
11:54 a.m.
I don't know about the other carriers, but I'm here to tell
you that RoadRunner (at least, it's incarnation here in Kansas)
really, truly, sucks ass:
1. They charge for basic cable in addition to my network
connection, even though I don't use the cable TV part.
2. ftp & http access to machines I have attached to the network
is *blocked* ( can get in via TELNET; whoop, whoop).
3. Their NNTP (net news) service sucks
4. They're going to raise my rates *again*.
5. The speed is no where nearly as fast as it used to be.
I'd go DSL but SBC doesn't have DSL in my neighborhood.
Damn.
Jeff
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-----Original
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From: Dan Wright [mailto:dtwright@uiuc.edu]
I was just switched from @Home to my local cable
company's
(insight
communications) network, and it's actual been
more stable and
reliable then it
was before. @Home kind of sucked, but I've been happy with
insight's service,
at least so far -- it's been about a month...
Ok, so how much does Insight cost? Will they panic if I tell them I
don't have windows, and no, it's not a Macintosh either? ;)
Do they require you to buy cable service too, or can you get the
network hookup separately?
I have been considering switching to cable off and on, myself.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl
Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
6 Mar
6 Mar
12:37 p.m.
It was thus said that the Great jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com once stated:
I don't know about the other carriers, but I'm here to tell
you that RoadRunner (at least, it's incarnation here in Kansas)
really, truly, sucks ass:
1. They charge for basic cable in addition to my network
connection, even though I don't use the cable TV part.
To ``help'' you avoid getting arrested for cable fraud:
http://www.geocities.com/flutocracy/cablemodem.htm
2. ftp & http access to machines I have attached
to the network
is *blocked* ( can get in via TELNET; whoop, whoop).
HTTP is probably blocked because of Nimda and Code Red worms. When we got
a cable modem [1] I found out that they were blocking incoming port 80. I
was upset at first but I was then reminded of the various Windows worms that
are still very active.
FTP because the default server for most Linux distributions is a piece of
crap (wu-ftpd) that is easily exploited, would be my guess.
Or ... since this is a residential service you ``shouldn't'' be running
those services, right? Bloody providers---I want a pipe thank you. Not
hand holding.
-spc (And heaven help you if you change network cards ... )
12:54 p.m.
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com wrote:
I'd go DSL but SBC doesn't have DSL in my
neighborhood.
Everything Jeff said plus:
In Austin RR offers commercial service. For about 2.5 times the cost
of a residential connection you get 1 (one) static IP. They will even
host your domain name, ONLY on a forward lookup. A reverse lookup will
give their generic FQDN -- csXXXXXX-XXX.austin.rr.com. Not horribly
useful. You're not allowed to run servers. Not email, not webservers,
not nothin. The download & upload speeds _are_ about 15-20% faster than
residential.
All for the low low price of $127/month.
Doc
12:56 p.m.
I forgot to be fair. On a commercial RR account, incoming http & ftp
are not blocked. You just aren't supposed to run a webserver or ftp
site.
Doc
8 Mar
8 Mar
4:59 a.m.
jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com said:
2. ftp & http access to machines I have attached to the network
is *blocked* ( can get in via TELNET; whoop, whoop).
If you need to get at your machines from outside, use SSH. It's secure which
is good for remote access anyway, plus you can do secure file transfer with it
(scp)... and your cable company is not too likely to have any idea what it is
so they won't block it ;)
3. Their NNTP (net news) service sucks
4. They're going to raise my rates *again*.
5. The speed is no where nearly as fast as it used to be.
I'd go DSL but SBC doesn't have DSL in my neighborhood.
Damn.
Jeff
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:36:41 -0600 Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com>
writes:
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(dtwright(a)uiuc.edu)
(http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Wright [mailto:dtwright@uiuc.edu]
I was just switched from @Home to my local cable
company's
(insight
communications) network, and it's actual been
more stable and
reliable then it
was before. @Home kind of sucked, but I've been happy with
insight's service,
at least so far -- it's been about a month...
Ok, so how much does Insight cost? Will they panic if I tell them I
don't have windows, and no, it's not a Macintosh either? ;)
Do they require you to buy cable service too, or can you get the
network hookup separately?
I have been considering switching to cable off and on, myself.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl
Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
5:52 p.m.
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Dan Wright wrote:
One thing I've used in the past is a terminal emulator that does automatic
ZMODEM uploading/downloading to telnet into a machine, then I use rz or sz
on the command line to transfer the file.
Peace... Sridhar
2. ftp &
http access to machines I have attached to the network
is *blocked* ( can get in via TELNET; whoop, whoop).
If you need to get at your machines from outside, use SSH. It's secure which
is good for remote access anyway, plus you can do secure file transfer with it
(scp)... and your cable company is not too likely to have any idea what it is
so they won't block it ;)
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