18 May
2016
18 May
'16
8:26 a.m.
Still unpacking after a house move 18 months ago... I have found just over
a dozen volumes of Inside Macintosh.
Since programing is not my thing, and I am not into the Macintosh, I don't
really need them. Does anyone want them? Tbey are free, but would have to
be collected from me in SE London (near Bromley, easy to get to from the M25).
I can make a list of titles if there is any interest.
-tony
18 May
18 May
9:11 a.m.
Ue...I have the 4 volume collection...is there another one?!
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Em 18/05/2016 12:29, "tony duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> escreveu:
Still unpacking after a house move 18 months ago... I
have found just over
a dozen volumes of Inside Macintosh.
Since programing is not my thing, and I am not into the Macintosh, I don't
really need them. Does anyone want them? Tbey are free, but would have to
be collected from me in SE London (near Bromley, easy to get to from the
M25).
I can make a list of titles if there is any interest.
-tony
9:27 a.m.
Ue...I have the 4 volume collection...is there another
one?!
Apparently, there is. This is really not my area, but I've just
read the titles off the books. All say 'Inside Macintosh' and
'Apple Technical Library' on them. The titles are :
Overview
Processes
Imaging with QuickDraw
PowerPC System Software
Files
Networking
Macintosh Toolbox Essentials
Memory
QuickTime
Text
More Macintosh Toolbox
QuickDraw GX
QuickTime Components
With them was another Macintosh book : ResEdit Reference
(for ResEdit v2.1)
-tony
10:13 a.m.
On Wed, 18 May 2016, Alexandre Souza wrote:
Ue...I have the 4 volume collection...is there another
one?!
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Em 18/05/2016 12:29, "tony duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> escreveu:
There were two printings of Inside Macintosh; the original printing was, I
believe, a six or seven-volume set over time ... Subsequent to the release
of System 7, they re-wrote and re-printed Inside Macintosh and it ended up
split across a much wider number of volumes that were organized more on a
functional, rather than chronological, basis.
IMO, the earlier printing of Inside Macintosh is both more readable and is
also of greater historical interest. I had a number of books myself out of
the second printing and I got rid of them some years ago, only to later go
and re-purchase a complete set of the first printing to archive ;)
Best,
Sean
Still unpacking after a house move 18 months
ago... I have found just over
a dozen volumes of Inside Macintosh.
Since programing is not my thing, and I am not into the Macintosh, I don't
really need them. Does anyone want them? Tbey are free, but would have to
be collected from me in SE London (near Bromley, easy to get to from the
M25).
I can make a list of titles if there is any interest.
-tony
11 a.m.
On Wed, 18 May 2016, Sean Caron wrote:
There were two printings of Inside Macintosh; the
original printing was, I
believe, a six or seven-volume set over time ...
More than two printings.
The first version was originally looseleaf. (4? volumes) Distributed to
the "Certified Developer" program.
Later, it was redone and released semi-commercially in "Perfect"
(paperback/phonebook) binding, and marketed through a publisher.
A set of those (4? volumes) was the last thing that I got from them as a
certifiable developer.
I later heard of a CD-ROM.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
11:15 a.m.
On Wed, 18 May 2016, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2016, Sean Caron wrote:
I need to remember I can't play fast and loose with my wording when I send
posts to the list ;)
While there were multiple printings, it falls out that there are basically
two major editions of Inside Macintosh; the early edition that was written
more chronologically, and the later edition that was organized by sections
of the Macintosh Toolbox.
I believe there are other printings yet; my volumes one through five come
in big 4" looseleaf binders, all official from Apple. My volume six is a
plain bound edition ... not sure if it was ever available in looseleaf
(probably, but why spend a lifetime looking?)
The CD-ROM edition is the later Inside Macintosh and it is readily found
on the Web. I believe Macintosh Garden has it. All volumes on the CD-ROM
were provided as PDF documents so it's all still quite readable on modern
machines.
Best,
Sean
There were two printings of Inside Macintosh; the
original printing was, I
believe, a six or seven-volume set over time ...
More than two printings.
The first version was originally looseleaf. (4? volumes) Distributed to the
"Certified Developer" program.
Later, it was redone and released semi-commercially in "Perfect"
(paperback/phonebook) binding, and marketed through a publisher.
A set of those (4? volumes) was the last thing that I got from them as a
certifiable developer.
I later heard of a CD-ROM.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
10:39 a.m.
For the original ?Inside Macintosh,? there was:
1. The prerelease looseleaf edition, sent to developers.
2. The ?phone book? edition where volumes I-III were combined, sent to developers.
3. The original ?Inside Macintosh? volumes I-III, and later IV and V to cover the Mac Plus
and Mac SE & Mac II, with photos of Mac logic boards on the covers, sold at retail.
4. Reissues of volumes I-V with new-style covers to match the new volume VI covering
System 7 technologies.
And then a couple years after that, around the time the PowerPC-based Macs were released,
there was ?New Inside Macintosh? where the entire series was reorganized into 25-30
volumes based on content. I don?t think any ?New Inside Macintosh? books were published
after 1995 or so, though new ones were written to cover new technologies.
-- Chris
On May 18, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Alexandre Souza
<alexandre.tabajara at gmail.com> wrote:
Ue...I have the 4 volume collection...is there another one?!
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Em 18/05/2016 12:29, "tony duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> escreveu:
> Still unpacking after a house move 18 months ago... I have found just over
> a dozen volumes of Inside Macintosh.
>
> Since programing is not my thing, and I am not into the Macintosh, I don't
> really need them. Does anyone want them? Tbey are free, but would have to
> be collected from me in SE London (near Bromley, easy to get to from the
> M25).
>
> I can make a list of titles if there is any interest.
>
> -tony
>
10:55 a.m.
On 5/18/16 10:39 AM, Chris Hanson wrote:
And then a couple years after that, around the time
the PowerPC-based Macs were released, there was ?New Inside Macintosh? where the entire
series was reorganized into 25-30 volumes based on content. I don?t think any ?New Inside
Macintosh? books were published after 1995 or so, though new ones were written to cover
new technologies.
There also was a release on CD-ROM
11:02 a.m.
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Chris Hanson
<cmhanson at eschatologist.net> wrote:
For the original ?Inside Macintosh,? there was:
1. The prerelease looseleaf edition, sent to developers.
I remember leafing through that edition in the summer of 1984 and
being horrified at all the Pascal-isms.
-ethan
1:45 p.m.
On 2016-05-18 2:02 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Chris Hanson
<cmhanson at eschatologist.net> wrote:
I still have a copy. Most pages are dated 1983 iirc.
It's entirely Pascal oriented, indeed. :-)
--Toby
For the original ?Inside Macintosh,? there was:
1. The prerelease looseleaf edition, sent to developers.
I remember leafing through that edition in the summer of 1984 and
being horrified at all the Pascal-isms.
-ethan
22 May
22 May
12:19 p.m.
Related to the early promotional Inside Macintosh phonebook edition, last
week I scanned the documentation for two versions of the MacSupplement
documentation. I have not seen this posted anywhere else so please feel
free to store these in a central documentation archive. I got this
documentation plus the Inside Macintosh phonebook edition along with some
of the original diskettes just recently from an early developer.
The February 1985 set appears to be before the Inside Macintosh printing.
The May 1985 set is after. Some of the original diskettes are also posted
here: http://vintagecomputer.ca/files-area/apple/macintosh/developer/#
If anyone has any earlier editions (was there only one prior to February
1985?) or has/knows where the diskettes may be imaged, I'd love to fill in
the set. Some of my diskettes may have been overwritten but they are in
DC42 format so the diskettes can be reproduced.
Hope someone finds this of interest.
Santo
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Toby Thain <toby at telegraphics.com.au>
wrote:
On 2016-05-18 2:02 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Chris Hanson
<cmhanson at eschatologist.net> wrote:
I still have a copy. Most pages are dated 1983 iirc.
It's entirely Pascal oriented, indeed. :-)
--Toby
For the original ?Inside Macintosh,? there was:
1. The prerelease looseleaf edition, sent to developers.
I remember leafing through that edition in the summer of 1984 and
being horrified at all the Pascal-isms.
-ethan
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