11 May
2004
11 May
'04
12:41 p.m.
Today I found a big stack of computer cards with Z8000 CPUs on them. The
Z8000s are socketed and I planned on grabbing them. But I'm wondering if
it's worth the trouble to take the related parts off? They're all soldered
on so they'd take more work. Besides the Z0800110PCS CPU, the others are
Z08030AB1 Z-SCC, Z0803606PSC Z-CIO, Z0801010PSC Z-MMU and Z0858110PSC. Any
thoughts on this?
Joe
11 May
11 May
1:21 p.m.
Joe R. wrote:
Today I found a big stack of computer cards with
Z8000 CPUs on them. The
Z8000s are socketed and I planned on grabbing them. But I'm wondering if
it's worth the trouble to take the related parts off? They're all soldered
on so they'd take more work. Besides the Z0800110PCS CPU, the others are
Z08030AB1 Z-SCC, Z0803606PSC Z-CIO, Z0801010PSC Z-MMU and Z0858110PSC. Any
thoughts on this?
Joe
.
I like my computers whole. :)
Who did make Z8000 computers? The Z8000 like several other
CPU's that never made it big and vanished out of sight.
Ben.
1:54 p.m.
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 04:21:38PM -0600, ben franchuk wrote:
Who did make Z8000 computers? The Z8000 like several
other
CPU's that never made it big and vanished out of sight.
Commodore had a Z8000 UNIX machine, didn't they? I can't recall if it
was ever fully released, or if it was only seen around the halls of
Westchester...
I would look it up at the "Secret Weapons of Commodore" site, but at the
moment, we are sharing a 38Kbps link for everyone on station, and it's
virtually impossible to surf the web.
You don't see any Commodore logos on there do you? :-)
-ethan
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4:23 p.m.
At 10:54 PM 5/11/04 +0000, you wrote:
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 04:21:38PM -0600, ben franchuk
wrote:
No just a stylized "dsc". I'll try and get a photo of it tomorrow and
post it. Maybe somebody will recognize it. There are no other names on it
anywhere including the EPROM labels, just some more numbers.
I looked at Claus Sch?nleber's 900 Page and in one photo you can see
part of the main circuit board. It doesn't look anything like the board
that I have.
Joe
Who did make Z8000 computers? The Z8000 like
several other
CPU's that never made it big and vanished out of sight.
Commodore had a Z8000 UNIX machine, didn't they? I can't recall if it
was ever fully released, or if it was only seen around the halls of
Westchester...
I would look it up at the "Secret Weapons of Commodore" site, but at the
moment, we are sharing a 38Kbps link for everyone on station, and it's
virtually impossible to surf the web.
You don't see any Commodore logos on there do you? :-)
-ethan
--
Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 11-May-2004 22:50 Z
South Pole Station
PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -69.7 F (-56.5 C) Windchill -119.9 F
(-84.40 C)
APO AP 96598 Wind 11.4 kts Grid 038
Barometer 684.2 mb (10468.
ft)
Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov
http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html
12 May
12 May
2:44 a.m.
On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 01:23, Joe R. wrote:
No just a stylized "dsc". I'll try and
get a photo of it tomorrow and
post it. Maybe somebody will recognize it. There are no other names on it
anywhere including the EPROM labels, just some more numbers.
Time to pull the EPROMs and see if there are any strings within giving a
clue as to what it is?
cheers
Jules
11 May
11 May
1:57 p.m.
I like my computers whole. :)
Who did make Z8000 computers? The Z8000 like several other
CPU's that never made it big and vanished out of sight.
Ben.
I think Commodore made a Unix machine at one point that used the Z8000.
You'd have to ask Cameron for sure though. :)
g.
4:11 p.m.
Who did make
Z8000 computers? The Z8000 like several other
CPU's that never made it big and vanished out of sight.
I think Commodore made a Unix machine at one point that used the Z8000.
You'd have to ask Cameron for sure though. :)
4:18 p.m.
At 06:11 PM 5/11/04 -0700, Cameron wrote:
As others have said, the 900. This used the Z8001, and was released in
very small numbers. Recently, however, I did acquire the boot disks to
one from a former owner on the other side of the pond; alas, I have no
unit to boot them on, but I'm still working on that. ^^ I might image
them at least.
http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/900.html
Cameron,
Do you have any docs on the ICs used on this board?
Z0800110PCS CPU, the others are Z08030AB1 Z-SCC, Z0803606PSC Z-CIO,
Z0801010PSC Z-MMU and Z0858110PSC.
Perhaps I should add that the card has two MMUs.
Joe
Who did make Z8000 computers? The Z8000 like several
other
CPU's that never made it big and vanished out of sight.
I think Commodore made a Unix machine at one point that used the Z8000.
You'd have to ask Cameron for sure though. :) 
12 May
12 May
8:40 a.m.
On 11 May 2004 at 21:18, Joe R. wrote:
Cameron,
Do you have any docs on the ICs used on this board?
I'm not Cameron :-), but I have a 1983 Zilog Components Databook in my hand
that has datasheets for all of these parts.
Z0800110PCS CPU
Central Processing Unit, 4.0 MHz segmented version (8 MB addressing).
Z08030AB1 Z-SCC
Serial Communications Controller (dual channel), 6.0 MHz.
Z0803606PSC Z-CIO
Counter/Timer and Parallel I/O Unit, 4.0 MHz.
Z0801010PSC Z-MMU
Memory Management Unit, 4.0 MHz.
Z0858110PSC
Clock Generator and Controller, 6.0 MHz.
The data sheets average about 30 pages per part. Unless someone has
already done so, I can scan and PDF these if you wish. Are you interested
only in the features overview/general description for each, i.e., the first
two or so pages (which would be quick), or the complete datasheets (which
would be not-so-quick)?
-- Dave
1:25 p.m.
At 01:40 PM 5/12/04 -0400, you wrote:
I'd just like to get a quick overview to begin with but if you don't
mind scanning the whole thing I can post if on my website or I'm sure that
Al would post it on his.
Thanks,
Joe
On 11 May 2004 at 21:18, Joe R. wrote:
That makes sense. It looks the memory on these is arranged as 7Mb x 32 bit.
Cameron,
Do you have any docs on the ICs used on this board?
I'm not Cameron :-), but I have a 1983 Zilog Components Databook in my hand
that has datasheets for all of these parts.
Z0800110PCS CPU
Central Processing Unit, 4.0 MHz segmented version (8 MB addressing). Z08030AB1 Z-SCC
Serial Communications Controller (dual channel), 6.0 MHz.
Z0803606PSC Z-CIO
Counter/Timer and Parallel I/O Unit, 4.0 MHz.
Z0801010PSC Z-MMU
Memory Management Unit, 4.0 MHz.
Z0858110PSC
Clock Generator and Controller, 6.0 MHz.
The data sheets average about 30 pages per part. Unless someone has
already done so, I can scan and PDF these if you wish. Are you interested
only in the features overview/general description for each, i.e., the first
two or so pages (which would be quick), or the complete datasheets (which
would be not-so-quick)?
-- Dave
13 May
13 May
9:04 a.m.
On 12 May 2004 at 18:25, Joe R. wrote:
I'd just like to get a quick overview to begin
with but if you don't
mind scanning the whole thing I can post if on my website or I'm sure
that Al would post it on his.
I'll see how much I can get accomplished this weekend and will post the
URLs back here.
One question (also mentioned in another post): I assumed that these were
Zilog parts, but I can't tell from the picture you posted. Is the
manufacturer apparent from the chips?
Thanks,
You're welcome.
-- Dave
15 May
15 May
2:16 p.m.
On 12 May 2004 at 18:25, Joe R. wrote:
I'd just like to get a quick overview to begin
with but if you don't
mind scanning the whole thing I can post if on my website or I'm sure
that Al would post it on his.
Full datasheets posted to:
http://www.bcpl.net/~dbryan/dropbox/Z8001.pdf (CPU, 1.1 MB)
http://www.bcpl.net/~dbryan/dropbox/Z8010.pdf (MMU, 0.7 MB)
http://www.bcpl.net/~dbryan/dropbox/Z8030.pdf (SCC, 0.9 MB)
http://www.bcpl.net/~dbryan/dropbox/Z8036.pdf (CIO, 1.0 MB)
http://www.bcpl.net/~dbryan/dropbox/Z8581.pdf (CGC, 0.3 MB)
Feel free to repost them on your site; due to space quotas, I'll likely
remove them in a week or two.
-- Dave
12 May
12 May
3:16 p.m.
Cameron,
Do you have any docs on the ICs used on this board?
I'm not Cameron :-), but I have a 1983 Zilog Components Databook in my hand
that has datasheets for all of these parts.
11 May
11 May
4:10 p.m.
At 04:21 PM 5/11/04 -0600, you wrote:
Joe R. wrote:
So do I but the boards are all I found. I think all the boards are all
the same so unless eveything is one the one card there isn't even be a
complete set of cards. The cards are marked "dsc MP-10/3" and "Made in
USA". I couldn't find anything with that model number but didn't research
"dsc".
Joe
Today I found a big stack of computer cards
with Z8000 CPUs on them. The
Z8000s are socketed and I planned on grabbing them. But I'm wondering if
it's worth the trouble to take the related parts off? They're all soldered
on so they'd take more work. Besides the Z0800110PCS CPU, the others are
Z08030AB1 Z-SCC, Z0803606PSC Z-CIO, Z0801010PSC Z-MMU and Z0858110PSC. Any
thoughts on this?
Joe
.
I like my computers whole. :) Who did make Z8000 computers? The Z8000 like several
other
CPU's that never made it big and vanished out of sight.
Ben.
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