4 Aug
1998
4 Aug
'98
7:06 p.m.
I didn't think it was the first. I have a Tandy Model 600, from 1985, and
I *had* a model 100.
I think I also have the first (correct me if I'm wrong) laptop with a
printer. The Wang LapTop Computer (WLTC). It weighs about 16-20 lb., not
including the external SCSI 5.25" 360K floppy (there's no internal disk
drive), which weighs at least an extra 15 lb.. These things were
definitely NOT for the light traveler.
I think the WLTC came out in '84 or '85 (not sure). Mine is date Dec. 24,
'86. I think it runs on a PASCAL-based operating system, with an MS-DOS
emulator. Mine is "fully loaded", with a 10 MB "Winchester Disk"
(hard
drive), 1 meg RAM (alot for then), a modem (not sure what speed. if any
one knows, let me know), and an RS-232 serial port. The battery even holds
a bit of a charge)
I have another WLTC - w/ 10 MB Winchester Disk, 512k RAM, and the RS-232
serial port. If anyone is interested in it, make me an offer. All of the
parts are good, but the power supply. There is a blown capacitor in it -
easy fix. It also does not have an external AC-DC adapter. I'm currently
using a Tyco racing pack on the one that works. I also don't have a
battery, but can give plans to build one. Make me an offer + shipping.
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
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From: Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Vintage Computer Festival Announcement
Date: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 11:47 PM
The T1100 was Toshiba's first laptop, not *the* first laptop. I think
the
T1100 came out in 1986.
Other laptops that have been called the "first":
1981 Epson HX-20 (first A4-style laptop)
1982 GRiD Compass (first clamshell laptop)
1983 Gavilan (Gwen Bell called this one the first laptop)
1983 TRS-80 Model 100 (M100 owners like to call this the "first")
1984 HP 110 (first battery powered clamshell?)
1984 DG/One (Data General says there's was first)
-- Doug
4 Aug
4 Aug
7:28 p.m.
On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jason Willgruber wrote:
I think I also have the first (correct me if I'm
wrong) laptop with a
printer. The Wang LapTop Computer (WLTC). It weighs about 16-20 lb., not
I think the Panasonic Senior Partner was the first luggable with built-in
printer: intro'd at Comdex in 1983, but there were HP's from the 70's
which were just as (if not more portable) that also had built-in printers.
I don't think anything over 12 lbs or so could reasonable be called a
laptop, though.
I think the WLTC came out in '84 or '85 (not
sure). Mine is date Dec. 24,
'86. I think it runs on a PASCAL-based operating system, with an MS-DOS
emulator.
Say what? Could you elaborate on the Pascal-based OS and DOS emulator?
The UCSD pSystem could be called a Pascal-based OS, but it didn't have a
DOS emulator that I've heard of. Is that what you mean?
-- Doug
8:23 p.m.
On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
donm(a)cts.com
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Don Maslin - Keeper of the Dina-SIG CP/M System Disk Archives
Chairman, Dina-SIG of the San Diego Computer Society
Clinging tenaciously to the trailing edge of technology.
Sysop - Elephant's Graveyard (CP/M) - 619-454-8412
*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*
see old system support at http://www.psyber.com/~tcj
visit the "Unofficial" CP/M Web site at http://cdl.uta.edu/cpm
with Mirror at http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/~cfs/cpm
On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jason Willgruber wrote:
It may have been the first DOS based luggable, but it was preceded by
some years by the Access Actrix - a CP/M based machine that sported an
Epson DMP printer on top. It suffered from small screen and single sided
drives, unfortunately.
- don
I think I also have the first (correct me if
I'm wrong) laptop with a
printer. The Wang LapTop Computer (WLTC). It weighs about 16-20 lb., not
I think the Panasonic Senior Partner was the first luggable with built-in
printer: intro'd at Comdex in 1983, but there were HP's from the 70's
which were just as (if not more portable) that also had built-in printers.
I don't think anything over 12 lbs or so could reasonable be called a
laptop, though. I think the
WLTC came out in '84 or '85 (not sure). Mine is date Dec. 24,
'86. I think it runs on a PASCAL-based operating system, with an MS-DOS
emulator.
Say what? Could you elaborate on the Pascal-based OS and DOS emulator?
The UCSD pSystem could be called a Pascal-based OS, but it didn't have a
DOS emulator that I've heard of. Is that what you mean?
-- Doug
8:59 p.m.
On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Don Maslin wrote:
It may have been the first DOS based luggable, but it
was preceded by
some years by the Access Actrix - a CP/M based machine that sported an
Epson DMP printer on top. It suffered from small screen and single sided
drives, unfortunately.
OK, you win the Obscure Reference award. All I can find on the Actrix is
that the company folded in 1984. If you erect a web-shrine to this
machine, people will flock to you from the search engines whenever anybody
makes a similar obscure reference in the future.
-- Doug
9:51 p.m.
On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
I smell web-advertising dollars here!!
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0
See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
[Last web page update: 08/03/98]
It may have
been the first DOS based luggable, but it was preceded by
some years by the Access Actrix - a CP/M based machine that sported an
Epson DMP printer on top. It suffered from small screen and single sided
drives, unfortunately.
OK, you win the Obscure Reference award. All I can find on the Actrix is
that the company folded in 1984. If you erect a web-shrine to this
machine, people will flock to you from the search engines whenever anybody
makes a similar obscure reference in the future.
5 Aug
5 Aug
9:18 a.m.
On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Don Maslin wrote:
Gosh, I hope not!!!
- don
It may have been the first DOS based luggable,
but it was preceded by
some years by the Access Actrix - a CP/M based machine that sported an
Epson DMP printer on top. It suffered from small screen and single sided
drives, unfortunately.
OK, you win the Obscure Reference award. All I can find on the Actrix is
that the company folded in 1984. If you erect a web-shrine to this
machine, people will flock to you from the search engines whenever anybody
makes a similar obscure reference in the future.
-- Doug
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