On 12/15/2013 07:45 PM, Al Kossow wrote: In the unlikely case that you're trying to restore an Alto, I've not had much success using old RK05 packs on them. Haven't tried bulk-erasing a platter yet to see if that would help. I wish...... No, it is a Diablo31 disguised as a Philips X1175. The one pack it has contains a Basic which i would like to recover. I will have too look for some other packs But a long term goal of recreation an Alto is tempting... Jos