On Fri, 25 May 2001, Alan Pearson wrote: In what way is it ahead of X11 combined with xterms? Graphical-only user interfaces are useful for those who don't do much wiht their computers, such as those with a few data dozen files here and there, who just access the 'net, use a word processor or spreadsheet now and then, etc. - such as the typical biz-'droid. However, anyone who has lots of data files, programs, scripts, etc. needs something more useful that allows more reasonable, e.g.quicker, access to their data. Why Word format? Aren't you able to convert it to LaTeX format which you can then use something useful like Emacs with? Speaking of Emacs, did those Xerox systems ever support a useful text editor like Emacs, or a reasonably useful clone of Emacs? I remember that there was an Emacs like clone called Hemlock for the PERQs running Accent... of course, the PERQs themselves were great improvements over what I've seen of the Xerox systems - truly hackers systems were, and are, the PERQs. Alas, the PERQs, from what I can tell, were never much good at communicating with other systems that don't use their proprietary protocols. PERQ Kermit was/is a little slow and buggy - and it can't copy entire directory structures, and TCP/IP seems to never have been fully implemented... or it it was, no remaining copies appear to be available anywhere; add to that a lack of working utilities like a completed version of tar, and this makes preserving software for the PERQs extremely difficult, as getting the files archived and copied to live filesystems for safe-keeping is a daunting task that could take far more hours than most have available to expend on it. -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)perqlogic.com 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

Is GVWin or GlobalView still available anywhere or does anybody have a copy for sale? I'd really like to take a look at it. Thanks, Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com