29 Aug
2000
29 Aug
'00
3:15 p.m.
I found that if I shut down and _remove_ the modem and
then install
windoze 95
on a _clean_, freshly formatted disk and then shut down
and re-install
the
modem, _then_ the parts of w95 that need to will see
the modem
(remember, it's
a plug-n-pray modem that I have -like you'd said
your friend's was). My
m'board
is supposed to be "Plug-n-Play" but in this
case there are probably
subtle
things that made it mostly plug-n-pray for sure.
Yes there are. To get plug and pray to reset you need to enable the reset
in the bios.
the next power up it will enumerate the modem.
two caveats... not all winmodems (HSP) work in all systems. And if the
BIOS
is not P&P you may have to go into the control Pannel | system and
actually tweek the
driver to point at every possible address the modem can be at (less than
a dozen).
Usually it W95 messes up and puts the wrong stuff at the wrong IRQ and
this is
worse when IRQs are near all full!
I know I do this EVERY day on 5x86/133 through P166 systems that are OLD.
Also keep in mond that the autoprobe function of the system can and does
fail to find stuff or if it has the worng IRQ/Address misidentifes it.
Although I have some experience with installing PNP
hardware onto w95/98
systems, it seems to me that while installing the w95 onto a previously
hardware configured box, the PNP majic of the system will not correctly
detect
and install the PNP hardware into the new system. Maybe
this is old hat
to some
of you that had come against this problem, but it's
new to me as I'm not
one to
buy lots of hardware stuff to play with and try out and
otherwise tinker
with
my machines. The machines are tools for me and I put my
money resources
into
s/w tools I need or my old radio collection (as Hans F.
and Wm. Donzelli
can
attest ;)
It's fairly straightforward. I do this enough to be comfortable with it.
Previously
installed means no new disk or reinstall of the OS (unless it was to
refresh a
few files) as the OS stores all the setup in REGISTRY, INFs and DLLs.
For those not timid at heart, the registry is very editable and can
usually stand
cleaning up.
FYI the most common problem is that I find the P&P want to put NIC at 210
and IRQ3 or 5 with is often already commited to COM1 and LPT2. Manual
setting of the OS (in the system pannel) is enough to fix that.
BEWARE... W95 by default installs NETBUEI as the only protocal! You
must
make sure that the TCP/IP protocal is installed and also the adaptor
(networking pannel). Then go to the DUN (DIAL UP NETWORKING) and set
up the dial out. FYI: use MSDUN13 (from the MS site.) as the OSR2 DUN
has
problems arounf DHCP and some other junk.
I usually install W95, then setup the networking, install MSDUN13 and
then
follow with layered products (err uhm applications). HINT: install MS
internet explorer
before netscape then make netscape the default if you prefer it. Also if
you use MS
Internet explorer/OutlookExpress Use 4.01SP2, it has fewer of the
active-x and COMx
controls and can be hardened more than the IE5 versions (they are very
virus prone).
Last item in is a ANTIvirus with currrent signatures, I lke SYMANTEC but
MCAfee
seems to work as well. In any case instal and enable it.
BTW, I'm using w95 OSR-2 also. 8-24-96 is the
majority of file dates on
the
distribution.
Same here. Also known as 95B or 400.950. That was the last version
unless you
have 95C (I do) which is the OEM disti copy.
Myself I've run 95, 98 and NT4/SP4/workstation and NT beats 9x hands down
(except for games). It will give untuned Linux (caldara openlinux2.3) a
goor run.
NT like Linux is intimidating for the novice to install and setup. Done
properly
with known good drivers they all work. Keep in mind one thing, I HATE
Micros~1!
Allison
29 Aug
29 Aug
3:37 p.m.
What drives me nusto here is that the thing has been in place for 2-1/2
years and worked perfectly right up to the point at which I swapped the hard
disk. Then I finally installed the OS on a CLEAN partiton of 13.6 MB, using
disk manager, and it just works beautifully . . . except for the modem,
which it doesn't even see.
SInce the BIOS doesn't support plug-n-pray, there's no reset to enable or
any such.
Nevertheless, if I could lay hands on another of the 3 VLB +3 ISA + 3 PCI
motherboards like I recently had die off on me, I'd jump on the thing.
These are the 5x86-133 version of that, though most of them run fine at 160.
I've tried various speeds, but everything seems to work best at 160. I
think the bus interface between the CPU and the two busses couple better at
160 than at 133, but I can't prove it. It's just there are things that seem
to go twice as fast at 160 than at 133, and 133's plenty fast.
thanx
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: ajp166 <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Philips "Easy-Connect" modem
I found that if
I shut down and _remove_ the modem and then install
windoze 95
on a _clean_, freshly formatted disk and then shut
down and re-install
the
modem, _then_ the parts of w95 that need to will
see the modem
(remember, it's
a plug-n-pray modem that I have -like you'd
said your friend's was). My
m'board
is supposed to be "Plug-n-Play" but in
this case there are probably
subtle
things that made it mostly plug-n-pray for sure.
Yes there are. To get plug and pray to reset you need to enable the reset
in the bios.
the next power up it will enumerate the modem.
two caveats... not all winmodems (HSP) work in all systems. And if the
BIOS
is not P&P you may have to go into the control Pannel | system and
actually tweek the
driver to point at every possible address the modem can be at (less than
a dozen).
Usually it W95 messes up and puts the wrong stuff at the wrong IRQ and
this is
worse when IRQs are near all full!
I know I do this EVERY day on 5x86/133 through P166 systems that are OLD.
Also keep in mond that the autoprobe function of the system can and does
fail to find stuff or if it has the worng IRQ/Address misidentifes it.
Although I have some experience with installing
PNP hardware onto w95/98
systems, it seems to me that while installing the w95 onto a previously
hardware configured box, the PNP majic of the system will not correctly
detect
and install the PNP hardware into the new system.
Maybe this is old hat
to some
of you that had come against this problem, but
it's new to me as I'm not
one to
buy lots of hardware stuff to play with and try
out and otherwise tinker
with
my machines. The machines are tools for me and I
put my money resources
into
s/w tools I need or my old radio collection (as
Hans F. and Wm. Donzelli
can
attest ;)
It's fairly straightforward. I do this enough to be comfortable with it.
Previously
installed means no new disk or reinstall of the OS (unless it was to
refresh a
few files) as the OS stores all the setup in REGISTRY, INFs and DLLs.
For those not timid at heart, the registry is very editable and can
usually stand
cleaning up.
FYI the most common problem is that I find the P&P want to put NIC at 210
and IRQ3 or 5 with is often already commited to COM1 and LPT2. Manual
setting of the OS (in the system pannel) is enough to fix that.
BEWARE... W95 by default installs NETBUEI as the only protocal! You
must
make sure that the TCP/IP protocal is installed and also the adaptor
(networking pannel). Then go to the DUN (DIAL UP NETWORKING) and set
up the dial out. FYI: use MSDUN13 (from the MS site.) as the OSR2 DUN
has
problems arounf DHCP and some other junk.
I usually install W95, then setup the networking, install MSDUN13 and
then
follow with layered products (err uhm applications). HINT: install MS
internet explorer
before netscape then make netscape the default if you prefer it. Also if
you use MS
Internet explorer/OutlookExpress Use 4.01SP2, it has fewer of the
active-x and COMx
controls and can be hardened more than the IE5 versions (they are very
virus prone).
Last item in is a ANTIvirus with currrent signatures, I lke SYMANTEC but
MCAfee
seems to work as well. In any case instal and enable it.
BTW, I'm using w95 OSR-2 also. 8-24-96 is the
majority of file dates on
the
distribution.
Same here. Also known as 95B or 400.950. That was the last version
unless you
have 95C (I do) which is the OEM disti copy.
Myself I've run 95, 98 and NT4/SP4/workstation and NT beats 9x hands down
(except for games). It will give untuned Linux (caldara openlinux2.3) a
goor run.
NT like Linux is intimidating for the novice to install and setup. Done
properly
with known good drivers they all work. Keep in mind one thing, I HATE
Micros~1!
Allison
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