24 Feb
2009
24 Feb
'09
11:16 a.m.
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:03:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven Hirsch <snhirsch at gmail.com>
The 571 seems to be pure unobtanium, unless you
count 50 hits of *&ssholes who want you to submit an RFQ and won't deal
under $250 a shot.
Does anyone know why those businesses operate that way? Why not just
post a price list? A line item on their RFQs is always "Target Price".
Well, honestly, my target price is 0, of course. I know I won't hit it,
but that's what I'd like. I'm certainly not interested in telling them
there is a floor to the price they can offer me.
And how is it more profitable to them to let this stuff sit in (costly)
storage somewhere, rather than selling fifty pieces to someone who could
use them?
I've been hunting WD92C32 for a long while and they all seem to be in the
hands of *those* people. About once a year I do another search, and the
quantity available listings never change. There's plenty of them out
there, doing nothing, but try getting your hands on any for less than $5
each. The total value of the thing I want to build is probably $15 so
spending $5 on one component is ridiculous.
Jeff Walther
24 Feb
24 Feb
11:28 a.m.
New subject: Why Do the OOP Seller's Use RFQ?; Was: Source for bipolar PROMs?
And how is it more profitable to them to let this
stuff sit in
(costly) storage somewhere, rather than selling fifty pieces to
someone who could use them?
I suspect most of them do not actually carry any inventory, but rather
go to _their_ sources upon receiving an order - or possibly just a RFQ.
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1:13 p.m.
New subject: Why Do the OOP Seller's Use RFQ?; Was: Source for bipolar PROMs?
On 24 Feb 2009 at 10:16, Jeff Walther wrote:
And how is it more profitable to them to let this
stuff sit in (costly)
storage somewhere, rather than selling fifty pieces to someone who could
use them?
I've been hunting WD92C32 for a long while and they all seem to be in the
hands of *those* people. About once a year I do another search, and the
quantity available listings never change. There's plenty of them out
there, doing nothing, but try getting your hands on any for less than $5
each. The total value of the thing I want to build is probably $15 so
spending $5 on one component is ridiculous.
I think you overestimate the situation. Most of this stuff is
probably "pulls" from scrap electronics. And I also suspect that the
part number is added to the list (it certainly seems to be that way)
as soon as it becomes known.
It's entirely likely that if you ordered 100 82S129 PROMs, they'd
already be programmed.
Cheers,
Chuck
2:44 p.m.
New subject: Why Do the OOP Seller's Use RFQ?; Was: Source for bipolar PROMs?
On Tuesday 24 February 2009, Jeff Walther wrote:
And how is it more profitable to them to let this
stuff sit in
(costly) storage somewhere, rather than selling fifty pieces to
someone who could use them?
I have a feeling that most of them don't have inventory, but "know
someone" who does, and there's only a few stockpiles that a lot of
resellers list parts from.
Pat
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3:35 p.m.
New subject: Why Do the OOP Seller's Use RFQ?; Was: Source for bipolar PROMs?
I have a feeling that most of them don't have
inventory, but "know
someone" who does, and there's only a few stockpiles that a lot of
resellers list parts from.
Half true - many have inventory piles, but there is a lot of behind
the scenes bargaining with those "someones".
One of the big reasons for RFQ and PUR is to keep cheapskates away.
--
Will
4:06 p.m.
New subject: Why Do the OOP Seller's Use RFQ?; Was: Source for bipolar PROMs?
William Donzelli wrote:
It'd be interesting to know how much stock actually sells, I suppose (as
opposed to it eventually just being dumped for any scrap value because it's
in the way)
I have a
feeling that most of them don't have inventory, but "know
someone" who does, and there's only a few stockpiles that a lot of
resellers list parts from.
Half true - many have inventory piles, but there is a lot of behind
the scenes bargaining with those "someones".
One of the big reasons for RFQ and PUR is to keep cheapskates away. 
25 Feb
25 Feb
12:23 a.m.
New subject: Why Do the OOP Seller's Use RFQ?; Was: Source for bipolar PROMs?
On Tuesday 24 February 2009 11:16:28 am Jeff Walther wrote:
I don't get the impression that the folks who are doing that actually have
those parts, they're just trying to broker deals. Which of course is good
for them if the deals involve larger quantities, and their way of doing
things is what puts the floor on things.
Me, I have some stuff, I put it up on a web page, and try and keep the
middlemen out of it. There's no reason for 'em in this day and age with
the 'net for communicating. Seems to be working mostly, so far.
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M Dakin
Date: Mon, 23
Feb 2009 21:03:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven Hirsch <snhirsch at gmail.com>
The 571 seems to be pure unobtanium, unless you
count 50 hits of *&ssholes who want you to submit an RFQ and won't deal
under $250 a shot.
Does anyone know why those businesses operate that way? Why not just
post a price list? A line item on their RFQs is always "Target Price".
Well, honestly, my target price is 0, of course. I know I won't hit it,
but that's what I'd like. I'm certainly not interested in telling them
there is a floor to the price they can offer me.
And how is it more profitable to them to let this stuff sit in (costly)
storage somewhere, rather than selling fifty pieces to someone who could
use them?
I've been hunting WD92C32 for a long while and they all seem to be in the
hands of *those* people. About once a year I do another search, and the
quantity available listings never change. There's plenty of them out
there, doing nothing, but try getting your hands on any for less than $5
each. The total value of the thing I want to build is probably $15 so
spending $5 on one component is ridiculous.
Jeff Walther
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