22 Mar
2005
22 Mar
'05
10:54 p.m.
According to Mobile PC magazine:
http://www.mobilepcmag.com/features/2005_04/birthofnotebook.html
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22 Mar
22 Mar
11:08 p.m.
Gee... lets just completely overlook the Apple Mac Portable and mention
the Powerbook 100 instead... The Tandy 100 could've gotten a mention,
even the Atari Portfolio could've gotten a mention too.
Its times like this, you want to roll those mags up and shove it up the
editors arse !!! ;-)
Curt
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23 Mar
23 Mar
12:15 a.m.
Rumor has it that Curt @ Atari Museum may have mentioned these words:
Gee... lets just completely overlook the Apple Mac
Portable
Oh, they didn't overlook it - check page 5 under their "Flops" listing...
:-/
They have an awfully shoddy way of considering "flops but technically
advanced so it's good" like the Gavilan SC, but "flops but technically
advanced so it's still a flop" like the IBM Thinkpad 701C (Think Butterfly
keyboard - the only laptop keyboard that even came *close* to the keyboard
on my Tandy 200.)
and mention the Powerbook 100 instead... The Tandy
100 could've gotten
a mention,
It did (but just barely) at the same time as the Epson HX-20... but their
supposed facts of "but 16K didn't get you far, even in 1982..." Pffft. 16K
was a darned good start back then, and the Tandy 100 could go to 32K
without trouble; much more depending on how much you wanted to spend on 3rd
party schtuff.
They did totally err on another thing - the first "full clamshell" laptop
was the Tandy 200, which came out in '85, 4 years before the NEC UltraLite.
even the Atari Portfolio could've gotten a
mention too.
Or the STacy...
Its times like this, you want to roll those mags up and
shove it up the
editors arse !!! ;-)
Or just not buy it. ;-)
Their idea of the 13 "critical machines" to me is disappointing - The Sony
Picturebook at best has had minimal market impact and is rarely seen
outside Japan; they whine about the Mac Portable's price of $7000 yet $3000
for an underpowered machine is OK (ooOOoo but it's got a webcam!) Pfft.
They're idiots, plain and simple.
Keep moving, nothing to see here...
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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1:42 a.m.
Their idea of the 13 "critical machines" to
me is disappointing - The Sony
Picturebook at best has had minimal market impact and is rarely seen
outside Japan; they whine about the Mac Portable's price of $7000 yet $3000
for an underpowered machine is OK (ooOOoo but it's got a webcam!) Pfft.
They're idiots, plain and simple.
And they also forgot the first colour portable, the SX-64.
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9:40 a.m.
At 01:42 AM 3/23/2005, you wrote:
And they also forgot the first colour portable, the
SX-64.
No they didn't it was in the article towards the end
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Gene Ehrich
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11:30 a.m.
> And they also forgot the first colour portable,
the SX-64.
No they didn't it was in the article towards the
end
Oh, you're right. Oops, I skipped right over it.
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11:32 a.m.
To borrow from a recent (and broadly offensive) film comedy:
"This article missed the point, more than Michael Bay missed the mark, when he made
Pearl Harbor. This article needs a rewrite more than Ben Affleck needs acting school, he
was terrible in that film."
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:15:28 -0500
Roger Merchberger <zmerch at 30below.com> wrote:
It did (but just barely) at the same time as the Epson
HX-20... but their
supposed facts of "but 16K didn't get you far, even in 1982..." Pffft. 16K
was a darned good start back then, and the Tandy 100 could go to 32K
without trouble; much more depending on how much you wanted to spend on 3rd
party schtuff.
They also totally ignored the Epson PX-4 and PX-8 CPM laptops, which were very interesting
and underapprecaited machines.
They did totally err on another thing - the first
"full clamshell" laptop
was the Tandy 200, which came out in '85, 4 years before the NEC UltraLite.
The comments on the UltraLite are beyond idioic. I guess the (original) external floppy
drive that I have with my Nec UltraLite qualifies neither as 'moving parts' nor a
'floppy drive'.
Finally, did any of you go to see Pearl Harbor? I've seen better film on a bathtub.
;-)
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1:12 p.m.
The missed the atrona which ran cpm and msdos both and was
much smaller than the compaq they had in the article.
I think that some of the choices in this article may be skewed by
the fact that journalists have their own peculiar needs in portables.
I think they use such units as will support the text preparation and
transmission functions they need, and don't tend to require a full
functionality of a desktop as can be obtained today.
I have seen articles as recently as in the last couple of years of using
small tandy portables to enter stories on and transmit them by
modem being used by some reporters. I would guess it is sort of
like the same as figuring you are comfortable with your underwood,
and not going to be forced to change.
JIm
3:47 p.m.
jim stephens wrote:
The missed the atrona which ran cpm and msdos both and
was
much smaller than the compaq they had in the article.
I think that some of the choices in this article may be skewed by
the fact that journalists have their own peculiar needs in portables.
I think they use such units as will support the text preparation and
transmission functions they need, and don't tend to require a full
functionality of a desktop as can be obtained today.
I have seen articles as recently as in the last couple of years of using
small tandy portables to enter stories on and transmit them by
modem being used by some reporters. I would guess it is sort of
like the same as figuring you are comfortable with your underwood,
and not going to be forced to change.
I'm writing a book on my eMate, although I'm not sure why.
I didn't learn on an eMate, didn't have or use one when they were
current, have zero nostalgic or habit-related reason to run it. But the
words come out better on that teensy little screen. :^)
Doc
6:19 p.m.
They did totally err on another thing - the first
"full clamshell" laptop
was the Tandy 200, which came out in '85, 4 years before the NEC UltraLite.
I first saw a working Gavilan ("clamshell") at NCC in Anaheim in 1983.
It was in the air-conditioned main building - I heard that people DIED in
the tent out back!
2:09 p.m.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Roger Merchberger wrote:
They did totally err on another thing - the first
"full clamshell" laptop was
the Tandy 200, which came out in '85, 4 years before the NEC UltraLite.
Morrow I think had a CP/M-80 fully battery-powered, fold-up
clamshell computer before even that.
Computer magazines are pretty consistently worthless today -- they
know only about sales. They could be selling wicker baskets, same
difference. New! Improved! Same but no different!
Their idea of the 13 "critical machines" to
me is disappointing - The Sony
Picturebook at best has had minimal market impact and is rarely seen outside
Japan;
But Sony is probably a big advertiser. It's pretty much as simple
as that.
If you don't pick at it, it doesn't hurt :-)
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