15 Aug
2005
15 Aug
'05
2:09 p.m.
From: "Joe R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com>
LOL! Anybody need an HP >>TERMINAL<<?
<http://cgi.ebay.com/1979-HP-Collectors-Dream-2649A-model-computer_W0QQitemZ
5230070472QQcategoryZ4193QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
Joe
Hi
I'm dreaming but just as I reach for the keyboard,
I wake up in a cold sweet. What does that mean?
Dwight
15 Aug
15 Aug
11:10 a.m.
At 02:09 PM 8/15/05 -0700, Dwight wrote:
I suspect that it means that you actually want to USE the thing! FWIW I
think I have a keyboard for a 2649 here. It's missing some keytops and I
picked it up for spare parts but if some REALLY needs it I might be
persauded to part with it.
Joe
From: "Joe
R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com>
LOL! Anybody need an HP >>TERMINAL<<?
<http://cgi.ebay.com/1979-HP-Collectors-Dream-2649A-model-computer_W0QQitemZ
5230070472QQcategoryZ4193QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
Joe
Hi
I'm dreaming but just as I reach for the keyboard,
I wake up in a cold sweet. What does that mean? 
2:23 p.m.
Dwight K. Elvey wrote:
From: "Joe R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com>
sweet.
What does that mean?
It means that either:
A) the custard went cold while you were asleep. Microwave the sweet until
warm, then consume
B) Your sweet is supposed to be cold. Eat & enjoy. Don't fall asleep in it,
as it will spoil the texture.
HTH,
Ade.
PS: Ironically, I *do* need an HP terminal.... To get my A700 running!
Unfortunately, being 3000 miles the wrong side of a big lump of water kind
of prevents me from bidding for the "dream computer" of the subject...
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Joe
Hi
I'm dreaming but just as I reach for the keyboard, I wake up in a cold 
16 Aug
16 Aug
1:41 a.m.
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Ade Vickers wrote:
PS: Ironically, I *do* need an HP terminal.... To get
my A700 running!
Unfortunately, being 3000 miles the wrong side of a big lump of water kind
of prevents me from bidding for the "dream computer" of the subject...
You can use HP-Term or AdvanceLink on any PC. They emulate a HP 2393/2397
terminal including color and graphics. Both programs can be found on
www.hpmuseum.net (look out for software for the HP Vectra).
Christian
17 Aug
17 Aug
1:25 a.m.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Tony Duell wrote:
I'd love to konw how they get colour and grapghics
out of an MDA card in
an original 5150 PC. You did say 'any PC' after all :-)
Ehm, well, if I had been correct, I wouldn't have said 'PC', since a
LGP-30 is a 'PC', too, by the terms of its time ;-))
But IBM PC does not say anything about a specific graphics card.
Christian
3:29 p.m.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Tony Duell wrote:
You said 'any PC'. OK, I will read 'PC' to mean 'IBM PC compatible
computer'. thus rulling out things like LGP-30s, PDP8s, etc. You did not,
however, specify a video card. I therefore assumed that any PC-compatible
video card would work, and the original IBM MDA card is one such.
In other words, a 5150 with an MDA card is a member of the set of 'any PCs'
-tony
I'd love to konw how they get colour and
grapghics out of an MDA card in
an original 5150 PC. You did say 'any PC' after all :-)
Ehm, well, if I had been correct, I wouldn't have said 'PC', since a
LGP-30 is a 'PC', too, by the terms of its time ;-))
But IBM PC does not say anything about a specific graphics card. 
4:41 p.m.
Tony Duell declared on Wednesday 17 August 2005 05:29 pm:
\pedantic
You can get "graphics" out of an MDA if you try hard enough. Lo-res, of
course (line drawing chars and 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, full shaded boxes in the
128-255 part of the character set).
Also, an authentic MDA display has green pixels IIRC, so there's your
colour. Or did you mean multi-colour? :)
Pat
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On Wed, 17 Aug
2005, Tony Duell wrote:
You said 'any PC'. OK, I will read 'PC' to mean 'IBM PC compatible
computer'. thus rulling out things like LGP-30s, PDP8s, etc. You did
not, however, specify a video card. I therefore assumed that any
PC-compatible video card would work, and the original IBM MDA card is
one such.
In other words, a 5150 with an MDA card is a member of the set of 'any
PCs' I'd love to konw how they get colour and
grapghics out of an MDA
card in an original 5150 PC. You did say 'any PC' after all :-)
Ehm, well, if I had been correct, I wouldn't have said 'PC', since a
LGP-30 is a 'PC', too, by the terms of its time ;-))
But IBM PC does not say anything about a specific graphics card. 
5:26 p.m.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:41:48 -0500
Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote:
Tony Duell declared on Wednesday 17 August 2005 05:29
pm:
\pedantic
You can get "graphics" out of an MDA if you try hard enough. Lo-res,
of course (line drawing chars and 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, full shaded boxes in
the 128-255 part of the character set).
Also, an authentic MDA display has green pixels IIRC, so there's your
colour. Or did you mean multi-colour? :)
\meta-pedant
What do you mean when you refer to 'an authentic MDA display'? I ask,
because my original IBM PC Monochrome monitor (bought at the most recent
IUPUI auction where a number of people hecked me for bidding on it **)
can be plugged into an original IBM EGA card and it becomes quite a nice
graphical monitor. I ran Windows 3.0 on such a combination for a long
while. (aprox. until I could afford a VGA card and grayscale VGA
monitor).
(** I paid $5 for it, but then also got a Compaq Portable III in the
real leather carrying case for $10 so it wasn't _all_ overpriced.)
On Wed,
17 Aug 2005, Tony Duell wrote:
You said 'any PC'. OK, I will read 'PC' to mean 'IBM PC compatible
computer'. thus rulling out things like LGP-30s, PDP8s, etc. You did
not, however, specify a video card. I therefore assumed that any
PC-compatible video card would work, and the original IBM MDA card
is one such.
In other words, a 5150 with an MDA card is a member of the set of
'any PCs' I'd love to konw how they get colour and
grapghics out of an MDA
card in an original 5150 PC. You did say 'any PC' after all :-)
Ehm, well, if I had been correct, I wouldn't have said 'PC', since
a LGP-30 is a 'PC', too, by the terms of its time ;-))
But IBM PC does not say anything about a specific graphics card.
5:20 p.m.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:29:22 +0100 (BST)
ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
Well, perhaps then _simple_ graphics, i.e. stuff created using the
line/box-draw characters in the MDA card.
I distinctly remember enjoying playing a very graphical version of
Othello on my dad's first-generation (PC-1) IBM machine with only an MDA
card.
I probably still have it somewhere. There are a lot of .BAS programs
included with the first versions of PC-DOS.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Tony Duell wrote:
You said 'any PC'. OK, I will read 'PC' to mean 'IBM PC compatible
computer'. thus rulling out things like LGP-30s, PDP8s, etc. You did
not, however, specify a video card. I therefore assumed that any
PC-compatible video card would work, and the original IBM MDA card is
one such.
In other words, a 5150 with an MDA card is a member of the set of 'any
PCs'
-tony I'd love to konw how they get colour and
grapghics out of an MDA
card in an original 5150 PC. You did say 'any PC' after all :-)
Ehm, well, if I had been correct, I wouldn't have said 'PC', since a
LGP-30 is a 'PC', too, by the terms of its time ;-))
But IBM PC does not say anything about a specific graphics card. 
1 Sep
1 Sep
3:11 p.m.
Hi Ade ,
Re:
PS: Ironically, I *do* need an HP terminal.... To get
my A700 running!
Unfortunately, being 3000 miles the wrong side of a big lump of water kind
of prevents me from bidding for the "dream computer" of the subject...
You can get a decent HP terminal emulator for Windows, QCTerm, for free at
http://www.aics-research.com/qcterm/index.html
Stan
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