2 Jan
2002
2 Jan
'02
10:51 p.m.
This is becoming a pretty silly thread because there can be
understanding
without proper grammer ; if we are being technical here. Sure there is
meaning,
u just dont understand it.
The real story here is this is pretty much a none issue since what i
am saying and pretty much what everyone is saying here, is just to enjoy a
hobby. To worry about someones ideas to the point that it bothers u defeats
the purpose of a hobby; to have fun or to enjoy yourself. If you cant
understand something ; it doesnt matter. This is not a business or the F.B.I
; it is just a hobby.
I get your point. I do use a lot of shorthand and because this is a
hobby
i dont focus very much on my grammer. If u see me post then dont read it.
That is all that i have to say about this matter.
joee
P.S i hope the grammer helps you understand this.
3 Jan
3 Jan
2:47 a.m.
Proper grammer promotes better understanding. After all, even a monkey
can sometimes make himself understood, even without language or grammar,
and you're better than that, aren't you?
Think of it this way - You're on stage, looking at a script and discover
the stage directions simply say maybe. This might, in certain situations
be appropriate, but generally, it will only leave confusion. That's the
point everyone is trying to make. you shouldn't feel so sensitive about it.
Also, you're not the only non-technical person here. just relax and
learn to enjoy the discussions which are often trenchant and very involved.
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 Golemancd(a)aol.com
wrote:
This is becoming a pretty silly thread because
there can be
understanding
without proper grammer ; if we are being technical here. Sure there is
meaning,
u just dont understand it.
The real story here is this is pretty much a none issue since what i
am saying and pretty much what everyone is saying here, is just to enjoy a
hobby. To worry about someones ideas to the point that it bothers u defeats
the purpose of a hobby; to have fun or to enjoy yourself. If you cant
understand something ; it doesnt matter. This is not a business or the F.B.I
; it is just a hobby.
I get your point. I do use a lot of shorthand and because this is a
hobby
i dont focus very much on my grammer. If u see me post then dont read it.
That is all that i have to say about this matter.
joee
P.S i hope the grammer helps you understand this.
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
2 Jan
2 Jan
3:45 p.m.
"Merle K. Peirce" wrote:
Proper grammer promotes better understanding. After all, even a monkey
can sometimes make himself understood, even without language or grammar,
and you're better than that, aren't you?
Koko may a have comment or two about that!
http://www.koko.org/
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
3 Jan
3 Jan
8:05 a.m.
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 Golemancd(a)aol.com wrote:
This is becoming a pretty silly thread because
there can be
understanding
without proper grammer ; if we are being technical here. Sure there is
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Overall grade: D+
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11:32 p.m.
You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
about. Personally, I understood what he had written
with no undue level of extra effort required.
I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
Gene Buckle wrote:
^
I
You forgot the full grade reduction as a penalty for being a patron of
AOL. F+.
g. joee
^
J
P.S i hope the grammer helps you understand this.
^ ^^^^^^^
I grammar
Overall grade: D+
4 Jan
4 Jan
3:59 a.m.
Not quite, we are still waiting for his story, if he has one.
Further and more to the point, he has been agressively ignorant, and
arrogant about it.
We're keen to be understanding and supportive when he's ready for it. At
the moment, it looks very much like he's not.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
about. Personally, I understood what he had written
with no undue level of extra effort required.
I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
Gene Buckle wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
^
I
You forgot the full grade reduction as a penalty for being a patron of
AOL. F+.
g. joee
^
J
P.S i hope the grammer helps you understand this.
^ ^^^^^^^
I grammar
Overall grade: D+
5:37 a.m.
Further and more to the point, he has been agressively
ignorant,
and arrogant about it.
He was under "attack" and being ganged up on. And it was
even getting personal. I think there would be more than one
that would adopt a defensive posture under such circumstances.
This list seemed to display a "mob psychology" response, where
individually, many who might have tried to helpfully suggest he
better compose his messages into a more proper form, collectively
as a "mob", many were ready to pick up and cast another stone.
I don't think I really saw anyone try to suggest "nicely"
that he better format his messages.
And, while I can't say that I know for sure, he might be
one of the nicest people you ever met. Perhaps someday he
might do you that special favor and pickup a piece of hardware
for you, or look something up in a manual that only he has,
or whatever, if you haven't alienated him over a fairly
trivial issue.
"Merle K. Peirce" wrote:
Not quite, we are still waiting for his story, if he has one.
Further and more to the point, he has been agressively ignorant, and
arrogant about it.
We're keen to be understanding and supportive when he's ready for it. At
the moment, it looks very much like he's not.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
about. Personally, I understood what he had written
with no undue level of extra effort required.
I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
Gene Buckle wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid ^
I
> joee
^
J
> P.S i hope the grammer helps you understand this.
^ ^^^^^^^
I grammar
Overall grade: D+
You forgot the full grade reduction as a penalty for being a patron of
AOL. F+.
g.
6:42 a.m.
He is reformatting his responses. And I hope is a wonderful person. He
probably is, but he wasn't expressing himself well at all. Besides, I
hardly think functional illiteracy is a trivial matter.
If he wants to use a style redolent of Cummings, fine, as long as he is
clear about things.
"i sing of olaf glad and big", which is about the only line I can remember
besides "my father walked through dooms of love."
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
Further and more to the point, he has been
agressively ignorant,
and arrogant about it.
He was under "attack" and being ganged up on. And it was
even getting personal. I think there would be more than one
that would adopt a defensive posture under such circumstances.
This list seemed to display a "mob psychology" response, where
individually, many who might have tried to helpfully suggest he
better compose his messages into a more proper form, collectively
as a "mob", many were ready to pick up and cast another stone.
I don't think I really saw anyone try to suggest "nicely"
that he better format his messages.
And, while I can't say that I know for sure, he might be
one of the nicest people you ever met. Perhaps someday he
might do you that special favor and pickup a piece of hardware
for you, or look something up in a manual that only he has,
or whatever, if you haven't alienated him over a fairly
trivial issue.
"Merle K. Peirce" wrote:
Not quite, we are still waiting for his story, if he has one.
Further and more to the point, he has been agressively ignorant, and
arrogant about it.
We're keen to be understanding and supportive when he's ready for it. At
the moment, it looks very much like he's not.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
about. Personally, I understood what he had written
with no undue level of extra effort required.
I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
Gene Buckle wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
> ^
> I
>
> > joee
> ^
> J
>
> > P.S i hope the grammer helps you understand this.
> ^ ^^^^^^^
>
> I grammar
>
> Overall grade: D+
>
You forgot the full grade reduction as a penalty for being a patron of
AOL. F+.
g.
5:13 a.m.
You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
about. Personally, I understood what he had written
with no undue level of extra effort required.
That just means you can parse Idiot better than we can. Personally, it
gives me a headache.
I'm not a religious person, but have always
remembered
( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
How about: "Stupid people suck."?
Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
Level of "opportunity" my butt. He got whatever opportunity he made
for
himself. Anything else is entitlement-minded whining. He's a lazy
communicator and is getting slapped around for it. Deal.
g.
5:37 a.m.
He's a lazy communicator and is getting slapped
around for it.
His "style" was definately different than the "norm" for
this list. And he might have received better responses
if he had followed the old adage of "When in Rome, do as the
Romans do". But here in the US we are supposed to have
freedom of speech, such that I may not agree with what you
say, nor may I even agree with how you say it, but I might
defend to the death your right to do so?
How about: "Stupid people suck."?
This is not constructive.
Gene Buckle wrote:
>
> > You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
> > everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
> > about. Personally, I understood what he had written
> > with no undue level of extra effort required.
> >
> That just means you can parse Idiot better than we can. Personally, it
> gives me a headache.
>
> > I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
> > ( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
> >
> > Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
> >
> > Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
> >
How about: "Stupid people suck."?
>
> > Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
> > opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
> > many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
> > I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
> >
> Level of "opportunity" my butt. He got whatever opportunity he made for
> himself. Anything else is entitlement-minded whining. He's a lazy
> communicator and is getting slapped around for it. Deal.
>
> g.
6:20 a.m.
Apparently, you and he use the same spell-checker.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Koller" <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; "Merle K. Peirce"
<at258(a)osfn.org>rg>;
<Golemancd(a)aol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment
He's a lazy communicator and is getting
slapped around for it.
His "style" was definately different than the "norm" for
this list. And he might have received better responses
if he had followed the old adage of "When in Rome, do as the
Romans do". But here in the US we are supposed to have
freedom of speech, such that I may not agree with what you
say, nor may I even agree with how you say it, but I might
defend to the death your right to do so?
How about: "Stupid people suck."?
This is not constructive.
Gene Buckle wrote:
>
> > You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
> > everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
> > about. Personally, I understood what he had written
> > with no undue level of extra effort required.
> >
> That just means you can parse Idiot better than we can. Personally, it
> gives me a headache.
>
> > I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
> > ( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
> >
> > Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
> >
> > Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
> >
How about: "Stupid people suck."?
>
> > Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
> > opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
> > many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
> > I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
> >
> Level of "opportunity" my butt. He got whatever opportunity he made for
> himself. Anything else is entitlement-minded whining. He's a lazy
> communicator and is getting slapped around for it. Deal.
>
> g.
7:58 a.m.
Dick,
I don't use a spell checker, because, quite frankly,
it is an extremely rare event that I misspell a word.
Now, which word is it that I misspelled that makes you
say this?
Richard Erlacher wrote:
Apparently, you and he use the same spell-checker.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Koller" <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; "Merle K. Peirce"
<at258(a)osfn.org>rg>;
<Golemancd(a)aol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment
>
>
> > He's a lazy communicator and is getting slapped around for it.
>
> His "style" was definately different than the "norm" for
> this list. And he might have received better responses
> if he had followed the old adage of "When in Rome, do as the
> Romans do". But here in the US we are supposed to have
> freedom of speech, such that I may not agree with what you
> say, nor may I even agree with how you say it, but I might
> defend to the death your right to do so?
>
> > How about: "Stupid people suck."?
>
> This is not constructive.
>
>
>
> Gene Buckle wrote:
> >
> > > You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
> > > everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
> > > about. Personally, I understood what he had written
> > > with no undue level of extra effort required.
> > >
> > That just means you can parse Idiot better than we can. Personally, it
> > gives me a headache.
> >
> > > I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
> > > ( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
> > >
> > > Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
> > >
> > > Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
> > >
> > How about: "Stupid people suck."?
> >
> > > Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
> > > opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
> > > many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
> > > I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
> > >
> > Level of "opportunity" my butt. He got whatever opportunity he made
for
> > himself. Anything else is entitlement-minded whining. He's a lazy
> > communicator and is getting slapped around for it. Deal.
> >
> > g.
>
>
12:21 p.m.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
Dick,
I don't use a spell checker, because, quite frankly,
it is an extremely rare event that I misspell a word.
Now, which word is it that I misspelled that makes you
say this?
How about definitely?
- don
Richard Erlacher wrote:
>
> Apparently, you and he use the same spell-checker.
>
> Dick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Koller" <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net>
> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; "Merle K. Peirce"
<at258(a)osfn.org>rg>;
> <Golemancd(a)aol.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment
>
> >
> >
> > > He's a lazy communicator and is getting slapped around for it.
> >
> > His "style" was definately different than the "norm" for
> > this list. And he might have received better responses
> > if he had followed the old adage of "When in Rome, do as the
<snip>
3 Jan
3 Jan
1:18 p.m.
Gordon Zaft wrote:
(/petpeevemode ON)
At 10:20 AM 1/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
No a SPELL-CHECKER! It takes BLACK MAGIC to get my computer
to run certain DEMON - possessed software. :)
Some times I wish I had a grammar checker as I often have to rush
off a reply to something. While it is important have a good writing
style it is more important to have something useful to say. Lets drop
English, Middle English or even OLD English for now and get back to
classic computers.
A friend has got a 'free' computer with win 3.1 but no printer or
software
disks. Having found a 'free' printer how would be the best way to
install
printer drivers for the old computer?
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
Apparently, you and he use the same spell-checker.
SPELLING checker. A spell-checker is for witches.
(/petpeevemode OFF)
GZ
4 Jan
4 Jan
2:07 p.m.
Many printer makers still have WIn3.1 drivers, and, by now, ones that work,
on their web sites. My Win3.1x drivers for the OKI OL1200 printer, for
example, work OK under '98. I did install the later drivers for WIn9x. I
don't see a significant advantage, however.
You will also need the Win3.1x installation diskettes if there's no printer
already installed.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment
Gordon Zaft wrote:
(/petpeevemode ON)
At 10:20 AM 1/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
No a SPELL-CHECKER! It takes BLACK MAGIC to get my computer
to run certain DEMON - possessed software. :)
Some times I wish I had a grammar checker as I often have to rush
off a reply to something. While it is important have a good writing
style it is more important to have something useful to say. Lets drop
English, Middle English or even OLD English for now and get back to
classic computers.
A friend has got a 'free' computer with win 3.1 but no printer or
software
disks. Having found a 'free' printer how would be the best way to
install
printer drivers for the old computer?
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
Apparently, you and he use the same spell-checker.
SPELLING checker. A spell-checker is for witches.
(/petpeevemode OFF)
GZ
3 Jan
3 Jan
2:31 p.m.
Richard Erlacher wrote:
Many printer makers still have WIn3.1 drivers, and, by now, ones that work,
on their web sites. My Win3.1x drivers for the OKI OL1200 printer, for
example, work OK under '98. I did install the later drivers for WIn9x. I
don't see a significant advantage, however.
You will also need the Win3.1x installation diskettes if there's no printer
already installed.
That is the PRIMARY PROBLEM! I have no installation disks.
--
Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
4 Jan
4 Jan
11 a.m.
perhaps they're using both ... or neither ...
The doc files that come with one or another of the WIndows app's calls it a
spell-check. Maybe that's really telling us something! Of course, it might
be that one needs to check to see whether or not the spell is running ... it
is, after all, Windows.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Zaft" <zaft(a)azstarnet.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment
(/petpeevemode ON)
At 10:20 AM 1/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Apparently, you and he use the same spell-checker.
SPELLING checker. A spell-checker is for witches.
(/petpeevemode OFF)
GZ
7:22 a.m.
You know, I was going to put in this really nice diatribe about how
simpering twits like you really annoy people. It then dawned on me that
it would be about as useful as holding a physics class for a
paramecium(sp) and promptly gave up on the whole idea.
May Darwin call you home soon.
g.
He's a lazy communicator and is getting
slapped around for it.
His "style" was definately different than the "norm" for
this list. And he might have received better responses
if he had followed the old adage of "When in Rome, do as the
Romans do". But here in the US we are supposed to have
freedom of speech, such that I may not agree with what you
say, nor may I even agree with how you say it, but I might
defend to the death your right to do so?
How about: "Stupid people suck."?
This is not constructive.
Gene Buckle wrote:
>
> > You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
> > everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
> > about. Personally, I understood what he had written
> > with no undue level of extra effort required.
> >
> That just means you can parse Idiot better than we can. Personally, it
> gives me a headache.
>
> > I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
> > ( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
> >
> > Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
> >
> > Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
> >
How about: "Stupid people suck."?
>
> > Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
> > opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
> > many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
> > I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
> >
> Level of "opportunity" my butt. He got whatever opportunity he made for
> himself. Anything else is entitlement-minded whining. He's a lazy
> communicator and is getting slapped around for it. Deal.
>
> g.
7:54 a.m.
Do you intentionally try to be such an asshole, or
does it just come naturally to you?
Gene Buckle wrote:
You know, I was going to put in this really nice diatribe about how
simpering twits like you really annoy people. It then dawned on me that
it would be about as useful as holding a physics class for a
paramecium(sp) and promptly gave up on the whole idea.
May Darwin call you home soon.
g.
>
> > He's a lazy communicator and is getting slapped around for it.
>
> His "style" was definately different than the "norm" for
> this list. And he might have received better responses
> if he had followed the old adage of "When in Rome, do as the
> Romans do". But here in the US we are supposed to have
> freedom of speech, such that I may not agree with what you
> say, nor may I even agree with how you say it, but I might
> defend to the death your right to do so?
>
> > How about: "Stupid people suck."?
>
> This is not constructive.
>
>
>
> Gene Buckle wrote:
> >
> > > You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
> > > everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
> > > about. Personally, I understood what he had written
> > > with no undue level of extra effort required.
> > >
> > That just means you can parse Idiot better than we can. Personally, it
> > gives me a headache.
> >
> > > I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
> > > ( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
> > >
> > > Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
> > >
> > > Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
> > >
> > How about: "Stupid people suck."?
> >
> > > Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
> > > opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
> > > many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
> > > I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
> > >
> > Level of "opportunity" my butt. He got whatever opportunity he made
for
> > himself. Anything else is entitlement-minded whining. He's a lazy
> > communicator and is getting slapped around for it. Deal.
> >
> > g.
>
>
8:07 a.m.
We all have a little of that in us, but you'd be well advised to avoid
calling it forth, else you'll find out just what the extent of it is.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Koller" <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; "Gene Buckle"
<geneb(a)deltasoft.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment
Do you intentionally try to be such an asshole, or
does it just come naturally to you?
Gene Buckle wrote:
>
> You know, I was going to put in this really nice diatribe about how
> simpering twits like you really annoy people. It then dawned on me that
> it would be about as useful as holding a physics class for a
> paramecium(sp) and promptly gave up on the whole idea.
>
> May Darwin call you home soon.
>
> g.
>
> >
> > > He's a lazy communicator and is getting slapped around for it.
> >
> > His "style" was definately different than the "norm" for
> > this list. And he might have received better responses
> > if he had followed the old adage of "When in Rome, do as the
> > Romans do". But here in the US we are supposed to have
> > freedom of speech, such that I may not agree with what you
> > say, nor may I even agree with how you say it, but I might
> > defend to the death your right to do so?
> >
> > > How about: "Stupid people suck."?
> >
> > This is not constructive.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gene Buckle wrote:
> > >
> > > > You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
> > > > everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
> > > > about. Personally, I understood what he had written
> > > > with no undue level of extra effort required.
> > > >
> > > That just means you can parse Idiot better than we can. Personally,
it
> > > gives me a headache.
> > >
> > > > I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
> > > > ( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
> > > >
> > > > Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
> > > >
> > > > Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
> > > >
> > > How about: "Stupid people suck."?
> > >
> > > > Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
> > > > opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
> > > > many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
> > > > I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
> > > >
> > > Level of "opportunity" my butt. He got whatever opportunity he
made
for
> >
himself. Anything else is entitlement-minded whining. He's a lazy
> > communicator and is getting slapped around for it. Deal.
> >
> > g.
>
>
8:16 a.m.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
His "style" was definately different than
the "norm" for this list.
And he might have received better responses if he had followed the old
adage of "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". But here in the US we
are supposed to have freedom of speech, such that I may not agree with
what you say, nor may I even agree with how you say it, but I might
defend to the death your right to do so?
Freedom of speech does not guarantee a right to a response.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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8:24 a.m.
Sellam said that you can't see a nod in e-mail.
But reading some of this thread, I CAN see a lot of eyes rolling in
exasperated annoyance.
7 Jan
7 Jan
1:43 p.m.
New subject: End the exasperation! (Was: Re: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment)
Hear, hear!
-Chris Craft, RetroComputing Nut
On Friday 04 January 2002 12:24 pm, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
Sellam said that you can't see a nod in e-mail.
But reading some of this thread, I CAN see a lot of eyes rolling in
exasperated annoyance.
4 Jan
4 Jan
9:03 a.m.
Freedom of speech doesn't imply freedom to abuse the language either. It's
not that he's got no right to do it, but he's certainly got no right to
expect people of all walks to appreciate and, ultimately, read and digest
it.
"When in Rome, do as the Romans..." applies to the language. He should read
what people express on this list and how they go about it. Then he should
do his level best to fit into that model. Everybody makes a mistake from
time to time, but flagrant, or reckless, or even intentional, abuses of the
language don't help the flow of information, and that's what the list is
about.
First of all, he's got to fit in. Then he can stand out, based on what he
has to contribute that's germane to the discussions on the list. He doesn't
have to be better than anyone else, but if he wants to be respected, he
simply has to show that he's doing his level best to be a constructive
contributor.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
Festival
His "style" was definately different
than the "norm" for this list.
And he might have received better responses if he had followed the old
adage of "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". But here in the US we
are supposed to have freedom of speech, such that I may not agree with
what you say, nor may I even agree with how you say it, but I might
defend to the death your right to do so?
Freedom of speech does not guarantee a right to a response.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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7:55 a.m.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
I did. I'm perfect.
Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that
)?
Bring it on.
:)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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1:20 p.m.
Not being a native English speaker, I had great difficulty making sense of
what he was saying.
Peace... Sridhar
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote:
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 05:32:10 -0500
From: Ian Koller <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net>
Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org, Golemancd(a)aol.com
Subject: Re: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment
You all are terrible. It seems like he really made
everyone's day by providing something new to bitch
about. Personally, I understood what he had written
with no undue level of extra effort required.
I'm not a religious person, but have always remembered
( though not word for word ) a couple of quotes.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
Judge not, lest ye be judged ( or something like that )?
Everyone in this world may not have had the level of
opportunity ( in education, employment, etc. ) that
many of you have had. Before coming down on him so hard,
I would at least be willing to consider "his story"?
Gene Buckle wrote:
^
I
You forgot the full grade reduction as a penalty for being a patron of
AOL. F+.
g. joee
^
J
P.S i hope the grammer helps you understand this.
^ ^^^^^^^
I grammar
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