ok! I knew they came 'toggless' but never saw one... mine had / has togs! I still have a m or an f up in my study ( I forget which...) been up on a shelf for 20 years probably should give it to the SMECC to go with the other 8's I gave them. I am going to make a point of getting the 8s out of oe of the other buildings and brig it to the display area ( and get the s/n to add to a s/n register or we can start a s/n register. Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/8/2015 2:54:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, nf6x at nf6x.net writes: Oh, and I should have mentioned that it was removed from some sort of CNC stitching machine, which is the sort of application where a no-toggle-switches panel seems more appropriate to me. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net> http://www.nf6x.net/