8 Mar
2001
8 Mar
'01
9:06 a.m.
ever heard of
any Linux billionaires?
Yes, but that was last year when RHAT had a $20B market cap. Now they're
just millionaires like you and me.
Cheers,
Doug
8 Mar
8 Mar
9:21 a.m.
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Steve Robertson wrote:
What a cynic.
And a misinformed one at that.
RedHat sells support. End of story.
Anyone contributing development effort towards Linux knows what the
rewards and remunerations are.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
Yes, but that
was last year when RHAT had a $20B market cap. Now they're
just millionaires like you and me.
Oh... The Robin hoods of the software world and friends to software
engineers everywhere. Wonder how much their developers get paid... Oh that's
right, they don't get paid anything. The software is built by well intending
engineers and given to them for free... DOH!
Makes Bill Gates look like a prince. At least he pays his engineers. 
11:22 a.m.
New subject: New 'puter joins the collection
And once again I'm reminded that 'the machines are out there...'
(just when I was starting to wonder)
I get this phone call, and shortly thereafter am the proud possessor of an
Exidy Sourcerer complete with the original documentation, (including the
tech ref - schematics!) monitor, cables, box of tapes, and various third
party books and such! (Dilithium Press - now *that* brings back
memories!)
And oh yes, BASIC in the infamous (slightly modified) 8-Track Tape
cartridge! Recycling at its most unusual! (odd, peculiar, etc...)
Just too much fun! Now, who has some *really* cool games for the thing???
-jim
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11:44 a.m.
New subject: New 'puter joins the collection
Nice snag Jim,
What I remember that stood out with this machine was the reprogrammable
font characters at a time when most of them were fixed. Had a really fun
version of 'Space Invaders' too.....
A worthy add to the collection!
George Rachor
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Hillsboro, Oregon http://racsys.rt.rain.com
United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, James Willing wrote:
And once again I'm reminded that 'the machines
are out there...'
(just when I was starting to wonder)
I get this phone call, and shortly thereafter am the proud possessor of an
Exidy Sourcerer complete with the original documentation, (including the
tech ref - schematics!) monitor, cables, box of tapes, and various third
party books and such! (Dilithium Press - now *that* brings back
memories!)
And oh yes, BASIC in the infamous (slightly modified) 8-Track Tape
cartridge! Recycling at its most unusual! (odd, peculiar, etc...)
Just too much fun! Now, who has some *really* cool games for the thing???
-jim
---
jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com
The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
Note: the 'computergarage.org' domain is currently offline. The original
'Garage' site (URL above) is still out there and is currently being updated.
12:10 p.m.
New subject: New 'puter joins the collection
What I remember that stood out with this machine was
the reprogrammable
font characters at a time when most of them were fixed. Had a really fun
version of 'Space Invaders' too.....
That was one of the things I found interesting about the
TRS-80 Model 2000. It's character set for the display was totally
RAM based and there used to be a shareware program that allowed you
to modify and redefine it, loading your font at boot. It made for
some interesting effects.
Jeff
--
Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems:
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
6:27 p.m.
New subject: New 'puter joins the collection
Ah, ah, ah! You bastard! :-)
I traded a restored & working Sol 20 plus a working OSI C1P with decent docs
to get a Sorcerer with limited docs. I traded with David Williams from the
classiccmp list. I think he got the better end of the deal, but I was
desperate
to get one. David has some really good docs on-line, but you probably already
have these:
http://www.trailingedge.com/exidy/
Here's the only place on-line that I've seen has Sorcerer software. He has
some
MP3 files you can play into the cassette port.
http://www.lisp.com.au/~michael/exidy/
Also, here's a picture of a Sorcerer with the official S-100 expansion box
plus official Exidy disk drives:
http://www.science.uva.nl/faculteit/museum/Exidy_fs.html
Do you know if you have the original, or the Sorcerer II?
At 02:22 PM 3/8/01 -0800, you wrote:
And once again I'm reminded that 'the machines
are out there...'
(just when I was starting to wonder)
I get this phone call, and shortly thereafter am the proud possessor of an
Exidy Sourcerer complete with the original documentation, (including the
tech ref - schematics!) monitor, cables, box of tapes, and various third
party books and such! (Dilithium Press - now *that* brings back
memories!)
And oh yes, BASIC in the infamous (slightly modified) 8-Track Tape
cartridge! Recycling at its most unusual! (odd, peculiar, etc...)
Just too much fun! Now, who has some *really* cool games for the thing???
-jim
---
jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com
The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
Note: the 'computergarage.org' domain is currently offline. The original
'Garage' site (URL above) is still out there and is currently being updated.
-----
Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net
8 Mar
8 Mar
9:46 a.m.
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:06:05PM -0500, Steve Robertson (steven_j_robertson(a)hotmail.com)
wrote:
Oh... The Robin hoods of the software world and friends to software
engineers everywhere. Wonder how much their developers get paid... Oh that's
right, they don't get paid anything.
That's funny; the Red Hat developers that I know get paid enough that
I'd be quite happy to land a job there.
To take another example, O'Reilly and Associates has Larry Wall on
their payroll, and his sole responsibility with them (beyond things
PR) is to guide development efforts on Perl. On that arrangement, he
says:
"Essentially, my position is what you call a patronage. It's a
very old-fashioned idea which goes back to the time when there
was an aristocracy and they would support artists and musicians.
They would have a patron. Tim O'Reilly is my patron. He pays me
to create things, to kind of be in charge of the Perl culture."
-Rich
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------------------------------ Rich Lafferty ---------------------------
Sysadmin/Programmer, Instructional and Information Technology Services
Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625
------------------------- rich(a)alcor.concordia.ca ----------------------
ever heard of any Linux billionaires?
Yes, but that was last year when RHAT had a $20B market cap. Now they're
just millionaires like you and me. 
10:06 a.m.
At 03:46 PM 3/8/01 -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
To take another example, O'Reilly and Associates
has Larry Wall on
their payroll, and his sole responsibility with them (beyond things
PR) is to guide development efforts on Perl.
Looks like they're having some misgivings about software
development in general, though:
http://software.oreilly.com/news.cfm?ID_News=200
Sez Tim O: "Yes, we've made a strategic decision to stop the
development of future software products..."
- John
2 p.m.
Yes, but that
was last year when RHAT had a $20B market cap. Now
they're just millionaires like you and me.
Wonder how much their developers get paid... Oh that's right, they
don't get paid anything.
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