Joe, I'd like a couple of the 64180 CPUs. I'd have sent this to you direct, but the email bounced. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

Wow, I spent quite a few hours in front on one of those. So slow that speed doesn't have much meaning, but still very usefull and powerfull. I sure hope it goes to a nice home, and can be put into operational condition.

Do you mean the big mints? I don't follow what you mean.

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Ethan, If you are near any good size college or university, there are usually stores around that buy and sell used text books.You might check with them. Also check with abebooks.com and bookfinders.com. joe At 12:27 PM 5/16/01 -0700, you wrote:

At 02:36 PM 5/16/01 -0700, you wrote: OK, but did you check with any outside book stores? A lot of them carry books that aren't necessarily used at that school. CRIPES! If you're near OSU, then you can go to Powell's book store in Portland. They're THE best technical book store that I've ever seen. They should have it. I haven't tried book finders but I've used abebooks and I've had great luck finding stuff there. Joe

Ohio??? I thought he meant Oklahoma ... Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Old chips for new project. students)

At 10:26 PM 5/16/01 -0700, you wrote: I thought you said "OSU" as in Oregon State University. That's in Oregon in case you can't figure it out. Portland is about an hour north of OSU. Joe

Don't forget that Powell's is also online... http://www.powells.com. They're even in the phone book in Victoria, B.C.! -- /------------------------------------\ | http://jrollins.tripod.com/ | | KD7BCY kd7bcy(a)teleport.com | \------------------------------------/

Wrong OSU Joe :^) You're right though Powells does have it, however they don't have the student book (at least not right now, they have in the past). They're who I bought my copy from (still need the student book). One of these years I really need to find the time to absorb the material in there. Zane

At 09:59 PM 5/16/01 -0400, Louis Schulman wrote: ... Here are a few links: http://www.trailingedge.com/exidy/ http://www.lisp.com.au/~michael/exidy/ http://www.liaquay.demon.co.uk/Sorcerer/ ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

I'd rather suggest not to convert it - a transformer is a way more convineant. And maybe someone from a 220V country may find a 110V unit some day for a trade :) Servus Hans -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

AFAIR you also have to use either 'adaptor plugs - or fit a new pwower cable, since the Sorcerer had a fixed one. And there is nothing more stupid in the world of power transmission than these plugs ... Unless the PS is already switchable and there is a Kaltgeraetestecker (no idea how these inlet connectors are called in english, where the power cord is detatchable) I always keep the original condition - for the short time I play around with a specific unit (seldom more than a few weeks) a stepdown transformer is a fine solution. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

Could we agree on a fine DIN plug ? :)) I know, you are more toward the practical usage. I'm a bit less hands on. I can understand your intention quite good ... still until today I never needed a second transformer ... just sometimes an extendsion cord with multiple outlets was needed. After all, there's still my power supply project waiting to be finished ... a 'cable channel' with outlets for all mayor countries for 220V and 110V - inclusive a _right_ dimensioned transformer :) And eventualy also including 60 Hz ... some motors require 60 Hz, and maybe faster to build than to get the replacement parts to switch them to 50 Hz operation. Anyway. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

Tony Duell skrev: How about the Dragon PSU, which uses a D-9? I can imagine the horrified shreaks of hordes of PC users who unwittingly plug it into their "serial" ports (real serial ports don't use D-9 plugs, and if they do, the Dragon treatment is a fitting punishment). I've got a US DECstation 5000/200 which refused to work off the wall outlets in my old flat, despite markings on the back saying that it ran on both 110V and 220V, so I just used a cheap transformer from the "international fleamarket". In my new flat, however, it works just fine without any adaptors. Could it be the lack of earth in the new outlets? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.

Tony Duell skrev: What a pity. ^_- Why not? I know that it doesn't latch very well, if that's your gripe. BTW, is there any "official" designation for the PSU plug used on the C128 and small Amigas? It's a kind of square DIN plug, but sourcing them isn't that easy. It did refuse to power up at all. Very queer. And why would the voltages change? It's not as if we're running 110V in this part of the town. My "sorting it out" would sooner kill me or someone else. No way that I am going to peek inside live wires, and besides, earthing the flat would require rebuilding the electric infrastructure of the entire complex. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6a. Ed ecco un altro esempio in cui le sigle italiane e francesi sono uguali ... non avrei mai creduto di poter un giorno dire una cosa del genere, ma secondo me Crostina D'Avena canta meglio. Tacchan s?gar den franska signaturen till Creamy Mami

Tony Duell skrev: Because it's a DIN standard? Can't tell now, nor would I ever dare poke a voltmeter into a wall outlet. It was an old house, though, much older than electricity, but due to that, the wiring seemed to be newer than here. I don't know about the legalities, but earthed outlets are common practice nowadays, though sometimes the earth wire, while present in the entire net, isn't actually connected in the outlets of dry areas, apparently to accomodate old plugs, but that's just what I've read. Anyway, this building was built in the 60s, and back then, there was no such legislature. Besides, the UK doesn't seem all that well off according to what I've read. UK ground is not the same as continental earth. I think it's got to do with the lines being earthed at the station, whereas the continental earth lead goes to a big piece of metal in the ground somewhere in the vicinity of the bulding. Due to that, many kits can't be legally imported into the UK, since they aren't safe when plugged into the UK electric system. Or so they say. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6a. Amiga 4000/040 25MHz/44MB/20GB RetinaBLTZ3/VLab/FastlaneZ3/Ariadne/Toccata

On Thu, 17 May 2001 11:39:37 +0200, Hans Franke wrote: #> Well, I just got a fabled but seldom seen Exidy Sorcerer. It has a #> power supply problem (including the need to be converted back from 220 #> to 110V) but I am working on that. # #I'd rather suggest not to convert it - a transformer is a way #more convineant. And maybe someone from a 220V country may find #a 110V unit some day for a trade :) # #Servus #Hans # The conversion is very simple. The two coils of the transformer are wired in serial for 220V, parallel for 110V. It was set at the factory. Someone can put it back to 220V in the future if they want to. Louis