My gut feeling is, Apple knows this, expects it, and may not try to really stop it. They can't make a direct attack on Windows, they will loose. But, if they release Intel based Macs with OS X designed to only run on it, and the pirate world happens to hack a copy, and some hard core people end up getting it and running it on generic PC hardware, all Apple gets is an increase in OS market share. The people that are going to go thru the effort to find, download, and do whatever is needed to get OS X to run on generic hardware aren't likely to have been buying a Mac anyway. So Apple doesn't loose sales to these people. What they gain is an insight to how well OS X may fair against Windows. Also, some of those people may like it enough to buy a Mac, or like it enough to tell their friends, who may in turn buy a Mac. Apple makes sales, and doesn't really loose any, and either way the OS market share increases, more people use it, and more people develop for it. If OS X on generic PCs become popular, then the pirates will cause the market share to increase. If it gets to a critical level, Apple can then decide to release OS X on its own and they will be at a market share point to go against Windows. If they never get to that point, then they never have to release a stand alone version. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>