Stan wrote.... But that's the whole point... if a cctalker posts to cctalk, he IS posting to cctech by doing so. He should NOT post to cctech directly or he will get rejected as he should be. And a cctecher posting to cctech IS posting to cctalk, just by posting to cctech. One more time... if someone posts to cctech, the list server automatically cross posts the same message to cctalk - for him - he doesn't need to do it. This happens instantaneously. If someone posts to cctalk, the list software posts the message to cctech as well automatically, but, it's held for moderation. Hummm Maybe to drive this point home I need to disallow posts to cctalk, and disallow posts to cctech email addresses for ANYTHING. Instead, everyone will have to post to classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org, which is really what they should be doing anyway because there really isn't two separate lists. There is ONE list, but with two views. Jay