At 08:03 PM 7/22/03 -0700, you wrote:
Did you check the drives opto sensor's light path
to
make sure that no dust bunnies are blocking the path?
No I have to check that and some other signals. I didn't have a logic
probe or scope with me when I was working on them so I need to do some
basic checks.
i have an osi/macom that uses the same drives and
after troubleshooting three good drives - i discovered
that the drive interface card and 1 cpu had been
pluged into the molex plug backplane backwords!
one of these days i'll have to re chip and re cap both
boards.
Ouch! Been there, done that :-(
anyhoo, you may want to check out your controller to
insure that it is sending a head load signal.
It is. I swapped in a 800-1 drive and it works fine so the cables and
system are working.
also on those drives,there are some wire jumpers that
may need to be set and soldered.
Done that. I've checked, re-checked and triple checked the jumpers, etc.
if i remember correctly - there is two different
boards used on those drives too - one is for hard
sectored and one is for soft sectored thier may be
another for mfm vs another standard too - double check
the boards on the drive's with your orignal - your
looking for the missing or complete parts on the fm
data sep and other silk screened areas and the wire
jumper location's at the back of the card edge
connector.
Yes, the boards are different. The 800-1 has three power transistors
on the board but the 801 doesn't. My docs show BTH drives having the
transistors but none of these do.
just rememebered my drives were siemens fdd 100-8 e
hope this helps anyway.
Thanks for the suggestions. BTW do you have any doc for the Siemans
drives? A friend of mine just bought a couple of them. They were sold to
him as Shugart drives but they weren't. Now he's trying to figure out how
to use them in place of Shugarts.
Joe
Bill
Message: 31
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:40:07
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
Subject: help! shugart 801
Cc: Dave Mabry <dmabry(a)mich.com>
Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
I have several systems that use Shugart 800-1 SS
8" disk drives.
I've
got several defective drives plus I've been wanting
some spares. Last
week
I picked up 10 Shugart model 801 SS drives. Today I
tried to use them
on
the same systems but I can't make them work. I've set
all the jumpers
and
straps exactly the same as in the 800-1 drives but the
801s aren't
working.
The system knows the drive is there and detects the
disk being in place
and
rotating and that the drive door closed but the drive
never gets the
head
load signal. I'm using the same system, cables, power
supply, etc with
both
drives so the only difference is the drives
themselves. I've tried a
couple
of 801s and gotten exactly the same results with all
of them so I don't
think that it due to a drive failure. Anybody have any
experience with
these or have a good idea of what's wrong?
Joe
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