27 May
2009
27 May
'09
10 p.m.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:53 PM, bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca
<bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
Now back to putting together my SPARE TIME GIZMOS dumb
terminal once I print
out the online PDF manual.
I just got my VT-6 partial kit today - time for me to start assembling it!
-ethan
27 May
27 May
11:17 p.m.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:53 PM, bfranchuk at
jetnet.ab.ca
<bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
Just don't run out solder like I did ... I got a few caps in and where did I
lose the
rest of the roll? Any how I also have to next week pick up a 9 volt DC wall wart
too.
Ben.
Now back to putting together my SPARE TIME GIZMOS
dumb terminal once I print
out the online PDF manual.
I just got my VT-6 partial kit today - time for me to start assembling it!
-ethan
11:44 p.m.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:17 PM, bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca
<bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
Ethan Dicks wrote:
Not something I'm likely to do... I have multiple rolls of 2-3 sizes
within three armspans.
I just got my VT-6 partial kit today - time for
me to start assembling it!
Just don't run out solder like ?I did ... I got a few caps in and where did
I lose the rest of the roll? Any how I also have to next week pick up a 9 volt DC
wall wart too.
I usually get those from the Thrift Stores near here for $0.90 (along
with car chargers, etc). For this, though, I was planning on using
externally regulated power since I also get +5VDC switchers from the
same source at the same price.
I also have an unassembled PockeTerm. I was thinking of powering both
it and the VT6 _plus_ a 2-port KVM from the same +5VDC supply and
using the KVM for a session switch. ;-)
-ethan
28 May
28 May
12:04 a.m.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
I usually get those from the Thrift Stores near here
for $0.90 (along
with car chargers, etc). For this, though, I was planning on using
externally regulated power since I also get +5VDC switchers from the
same source at the same price.
I'll have to check there for a wart. I do plan to get a cheap VGA display
there once I get the system working.
I also have an unassembled PockeTerm. I was thinking
of powering both
it and the VT6 _plus_ a 2-port KVM from the same +5VDC supply and
using the KVM for a session switch. ;-)
Then again, may just power it from the SCB6120, I got a AT switcher for that
so I have no problems with power.
-ethan
Ben.
12:14 a.m.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:04 AM, bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca
<bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
Ethan Dicks wrote:
I got a Dell 15" and an off-brand 15" LCD display from the Thrift,
perfectly working w/internal PSUs for $15-$20 about 2-3 weeks ago.
I usually get those from the Thrift Stores near
here...
I'll have to check there for a wart. I do plan to get a cheap VGA display
there once I get the system working. Then again, may just power it from the SCB6120, I got
a AT switcher for that
so I have no problems with power.
Yup. No problems there.
-ethan
1:48 a.m.
Alexandre Souza wrote:
Now you tell me ...
Ben.
PS. I found my roll of solder, I put it away for safe keeping. :)
PPS ... Now why did he not design it to use a 9 volt AC wart ... I have those
kicking around.
I'll have
to check there for a wart. I do plan to get a cheap VGA display
there once I get the system working.
Get an old macintosh and gut it with your SBC6120 :)
9:54 a.m.
bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca wrote:
... VT6 ...
PPS ... Now why did he not design it to use a 9 volt AC wart ...
Well you might be able to use an AC wall wart - the reverse polarity
protection diode will serve as a half wave rectifier, but you'll probably
want a bigger filter cap than the one that's already on there. Just make
sure the trough of the ripple stays above 8V so that the 7805 doesn't lose
regulation.
And you can of course use a 12V (DC that is) wall wart, but just watch the
temperature of the 7805. A heat sink would help a lot, but there's not much
room for one.
Bob
9:46 a.m.
Alexandre Souza [alexandre-listas at e-secure.com.br]
wrote:
Get an old macintosh and gut it with your SBC6120 :)
Now that would be really neat, especially if you could get the original
keyboard and monitor to work too. Maybe somebody could make a retro
modification kit for this - I'd buy one.
Bob
10:26 a.m.
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From: bob at jfcl.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: VT-6 kit (was Re: Making vintage computers)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 06:46:20 -0700
Hi
I still prefer using a laptop and a ternimal emulator.
It leaves me the option of dumping or uploading files
to disk. Sometimes I just want to log what I've been
doing.
It is a little more difficult as the newer laptops don't
have serial ports and the os doesn't allow direct access
to the prots. Still many older laptops will boot a dos
disk.
Dwight
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Alexandre Souza [alexandre-listas at
e-secure.com.br] wrote:
Get an old macintosh and gut it with your SBC6120 :)
Now that would be really neat, especially if you could get the original
keyboard and monitor to work too. Maybe somebody could make a retro
modification kit for this - I'd buy one.
Bob
10:48 a.m.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM, dwight elvey <dkelvey at hotmail.com> wrote:
?I still prefer using a laptop and a ternimal
emulator.
It leaves me the option of dumping or uploading files
to disk. Sometimes I just want to log what I've been
doing.
If I'm importing text or trying to completely copy a session, I tend
towards laptops, but I've run into the occasional VT100-emulation
issue with PC-based terminal programs that I've never had using a real
terminal.
As for size, the VT-6 is more portable than a laptop if you have a
keyboard and monitor at your destination. Previously, my Planar
ELT-320 has been great - it's a small (well under 10")
electroluminescent screen (thus the "ELT") that has keyboard jacks for
DEC LK series *and* PC-AT/PS/2 along with MMJ *and* DE-9 serial
connectors. They aren't all that common (I've only ever run across a
few for sale), but great when you can find them.
For me, portability is somewhat important, but compatibility is much
more so. If it doesn't render emacs properly (a real problem I've had
with xterm and klh10) or the VTEDIT TECO Macro on OS/8 (a real problem
I've had with a real DEC VT220 in VT52 mode), the size, the weight or
other factors just aren't important. My solution in each of the above
cases was to use a genuine terminal because when I plugged it in, it
just worked.
?It is a little more difficult as the newer laptops
don't
have serial ports and the os doesn't allow direct access
to the prots.
Indeed. I'm not happy with the shift in what hardware resources are
on "modern" machines, but given that I use a parallel port as 8+ bits
of general-purpose I/O (I don't remember the last time I put a printer
on one ;-), I've come to expect that what I want and what the masses
want only intersect slightly (and that's why I don't have a "new"
laptop).
Still many older laptops will boot a dos disk.
I have a Zenith 8-bit laptop I've posted about before - it cost me $15
with a carrying case, it has two pop-up low-density 3.5" floppies and
no hard drive. I have a boot disk in it with DOS 3.3 and Kermit. I
also have a Xircom PE-3 on its parallel port and the packet drivers,
so I can use DOS Kermit either over the serial port or over a 10BaseT
connection. It's not a fast machine, but it's only doing one thing.
One long-outstanding project is to get some C-sized NiCads with
solder-tabs to rebuild the battery pack, but it works fine on wall
power and I haven't had to do anything but plug it in and boot it up
since I got it.
These days, something like a Dell Latitude CP-series machine is free
or nearly so (but the battery packs are probably dead), and with
64MB-256MB, a built-in serial port, PCMCIA slots, etc., etc., it would
make a fine inexpensive dedicated terminal device. Just watch out for
broken lids (the hinges are stronger than the plastic the case is made
out of).
With "that much" power, you aren't limited to DOS... I still have one
of these running RedHat9 and it does great. The only real limitation
is how much physical memory you can (or can't) stuff in there.
-ethan
10:57 a.m.
On Thursday 28 May 2009, dwight elvey wrote:
Hi
I still prefer using a laptop and a ternimal emulator.
It leaves me the option of dumping or uploading files
to disk. Sometimes I just want to log what I've been
doing.
It is a little more difficult as the newer laptops don't
have serial ports and the os doesn't allow direct access
to the prots. Still many older laptops will boot a dos
disk.
Even Dell still sells one or two models with a physical serial port, and
it's pretty easy to find a laptop that'll boot an OS that has a USB
stack these days. It's also nice to have something with a decent
tcp/ip stack, to scp the logged console output around (or files to
Xmodem transfer to/from the device you're connected to).
The problem, of course, is finding terminal emulation software that'll
emulate weird terminal types (non VT100/ANSI emulation). That's what I
see Bob's VT-6 thing as being useful (though I'd prefer just having a
POSIX / ANSI C (or Perl, Python, Java, C++, etc) implementation myself,
which I can run under the OS of my choice).
Pat
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12:28 p.m.
dwight elvey wrote:
Hi
I still prefer using a laptop and a ternimal emulator.
It leaves me the option of dumping or uploading files
to disk. Sometimes I just want to log what I've been
doing.
I tried that ... I find I need a full size keyboard and display.
It is a little more difficult as the newer laptops
don't
have serial ports and the os doesn't allow direct access
to the prots. Still many older laptops will boot a dos
disk.
You can still get a used one cheap.
Dwight
Ben.
11:23 a.m.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
One problem is that the video circuit for compact Macs is bizarre.
The display circuit was optimized for square pixels at 72 dpi on the
tube. Here's the stats of the Mac video circuit I was able to dredge
up...
Resolution........................................512 x 342
Horizontal scan rate..........................22.3KHZ, (4?s on, 40?s off)
Vertical scan rate .............................60HZ (180?s on, 16.4ms off)
Of course it could be hacked to accept something else, and the VT-6
display routine can be hacked, but I'm not qualified to estimate if
there's enough overlap between what is needed to display 80x24 text
and what the Macintosh video circuit can provide, but there's some
excellent discussion and detailed schematics here:
http://68kmla.net/files/classicmac2.pdf
As for the keyboard, the original Mac keyboard (128K and 512K) lacks
arrow keys, a control key, function keys and a keypad. The Mac Plus
keyboard is less spartan, but still would present a challenge for an
EDT user. I don't know anything about Mac keyboard protocols or
signaling method, but with the modular-jack keyboards (pre-ADB), it's
probably similar enough to what everyone else did (power, ground,
either data+clock or bi-directional data over the 4 wires) that it
shouldn't be too hard to reverse-engineer.
If you could find an old 9" mono VGA monitor, that might be easy to
physically adapt to an old Mac case, but I don't remember those being
too common, even back when they were making them (since they were
really only popular with hardcore DOS users).
It'd be a cute hack, though.
-ethan
Alexandre Souza
[alexandre-listas at e-secure.com.br] wrote:
? ?Get an old macintosh and gut it with your SBC6120 :)
?Now that would be really neat, especially if you could get the original
keyboard and monitor to work too. ?Maybe somebody could make a retro
modification kit for this - I'd buy one.
11:37 a.m.
Ethan Dicks [mailto:ethan.dicks at gmail.com]
If you could find an old 9" mono VGA monitor, that might be easy to
physically adapt to an old Mac case, but I don't remember those being
too common, even back when they were making them (since they were
really only popular with hardcore DOS users).
9" mono VGA monitors were at one time common on POS ("Point of Sale")
terminals (i.e. cash registers) that were really nothing more than a
disguised PC. I often find them at surplus places, although the supply does
seem to be drying up.
Bob
12:06 p.m.
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I'd love to find a 7" color VGA display. Even a 7" LCD panel with a
4:3
aspect ratio would work.
g.
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Ethan Dicks
[mailto:ethan.dicks at gmail.com]
If you could find an old 9" mono VGA monitor, that might be easy to
physically adapt to an old Mac case, but I don't remember those being
too common, even back when they were making them (since they were
really only popular with hardcore DOS users).
9" mono VGA monitors were at one time common on POS ("Point of Sale")
terminals (i.e. cash registers) that were really nothing more than a
disguised PC. I often find them at surplus places, although the supply does
seem to be drying up.
4:55 p.m.
Gene Buckle wrote:
I'd love to find a 7" color VGA display.
Even a 7" LCD panel with a 4:3
aspect ratio would work.
I have an Olivetti VGA colour monitor with a 9-inch screen.
If you want to find one like it, the model number is:
CD.9.A./2709
Hope that helps!
--
John Honniball
coredump at gifford.co.uk
5:48 p.m.
On Thu, 28 May 2009, John Honniball wrote:
Gene Buckle wrote:
John, thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, a 7" diagonal monitor is the
largest I can use. It's a replacement for the 1:1 aspect ratio screen
that was originally installed in the MPCD of the F-15C I'm rebuilding into
a simulator. I've got a 7" monochrome display shoe-horned into the
chassis now, but it really should be a color display.
g.
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Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
I'd love to find a 7" color VGA display.
Even a 7" LCD panel with a 4:3
aspect ratio would work.
I have an Olivetti VGA colour monitor with a 9-inch screen.
If you want to find one like it, the model number is:
6:12 p.m.
On Thu, 28 May 2009 14:48:27 -0700 (PDT), Gene Buckle wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009, John Honniball wrote:
Gene Buckle
wrote:
John, thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, a 7" diagonal monitor is the
largest I can use. It's a replacement for the 1:1 aspect ratio screen
that was originally installed in the MPCD of the F-15C I'm rebuilding into
a simulator. I've got a 7" monochrome display shoe-horned into the
chassis now, but it really should be a color display. I'd love to find a 7" color VGA display.
Even a 7" LCD panel with a 4:3
aspect ratio would work.
I have an Olivetti VGA colour monitor with a 9-inch screen.
If you want to find one like it, the model number is:
g.
Google 7 inch color display and you will find a bunch of choices.
assuming LCT is close enough.
7 color CRT are a bit harder to find but theye are around.
an ebay search of 7 color tv came up with a few choices.
Auto Vackup camera with 7 display
http://www.i4u.com/article6741.html
Door camera with 7 color display
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/211479480/Color_Video_Door_Phone_7_inch.h…
http://www.diytrade.com/china/4/products/4802363/7inch_in_VGA_LCD_PC_AV.html
ASUS Eee PC 4G (7-Inch Display
http://www.amazon.com/7-Inch-Display-Mobile-Processor-Preloaded/dp/B000YEMK…
Bob
10:08 p.m.
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Bob Bradlee wrote:
Google 7 inch color display and you will find a bunch of choices.
assuming LCT is close enough.
7 color CRT are a bit harder to find but theye are around.
I've NEVER seen a 7" color VGA display. I'd hoped I was just looking
in
the wrong places.
an ebay search of 7 color tv came up with a few
choices.
Actually, no choices. LCDs are by and large formatted for a 16:9 aspect
ratio. This means that a display that's the correct width will be too
narrow to properly fill the vertical space in the MPCD bezel. The
original tube is still available, but the supplier wants $5000.00 for it.
It's a 1:1 aspect ratio tube with a resolution of 512x512.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
5:47 p.m.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
Ah! Good point. I completely overlooked that avenue. There may have
been more used for that application than for all others combined
(making them a rich source).
Ethan Dicks
[mailto:ethan.dicks at gmail.com]
If you could find an old 9" mono VGA monitor...
?9" mono VGA monitors were at one time common on POS ("Point of Sale")
terminals (i.e. cash registers) that were really nothing more than a
disguised PC. ?I often find them at surplus places, although the
supply does
seem to be drying up.
I don't think the surplus places around here (except perhaps for
Mendelsson's) have quite the eclectic selection as the ones around
you. Barring a few at the Dayton Hamvention, I can't recall running
across old POS terminals.
I did get some 20x2 VFD Pole Displays from a POS at Dayton - a carton
of them for $10. I even got them working with LCDproc. Never saw the
terminals themselves, though.
-ethan
5:24 p.m.
One problem is that the video circuit for compact Macs
is bizarre.
The display circuit was optimized for square pixels at 72 dpi on the
tube. Here's the stats of the Mac video circuit I was able to dredge
up...
Do what I did. Subistitute the entire analog board for a small (9") vga
mono monitor :o)
All (or most) picture tubes are compatible. I have an old mac 128 who
came to me without the analog board. When it happened, it was hard (and
expensive) as hell to put my hands on an analog board. Since I wanted that
mac to play, I gutted an old 9" mono vga monitor I had and installed
everything but the picture tube on the mac. It is my "secondary PC monitor"
up to today, running windows and like :D
If you want a colour monitor, install everything - incluiding the
picture tube.
As for the keyboard, the original Mac keyboard (128K
and 512K) lacks
arrow keys, a control key, function keys and a keypad. The Mac Plus
Why would I use the (arrrrggghhhh) original mac keyboard? The newer mac
keyboards are nice, and you can always build an ADB -> PS/2 adapter. Or mod
the source of the VT-5 to use an ADB keyboard :) I took a (very) fast look
on the schematics, seems that the keyboard decoder is very simple.
Or, do like me, use a PC keyboard :o)
EDT user. I don't know anything about Mac keyboard
protocols or
signaling method, but with the modular-jack keyboards (pre-ADB), it's
probably similar enough to what everyone else did (power, ground,
either data+clock or bi-directional data over the 4 wires) that it
shouldn't be too hard to reverse-engineer.
ADB is not hard, it is well documented in apple's site!
If you could find an old 9" mono VGA monitor, that
might be easy to
physically adapt to an old Mac case, but I don't remember those being
too common, even back when they were making them (since they were
really only popular with hardcore DOS users).
you can use a 12" monitor circuit with a 9" tube. Did I made it easier
for you? :o)
I have some photos of mine, I can send to you, my site is offline
5:43 p.m.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Alexandre Souza
<alexandre-listas at e-secure.com.br> wrote:
> One problem is that the video circuit for compact
Macs is bizarre...
? Do what I did. Subistitute the entire analog board
for a small (9") vga
mono monitor :o)
.
.
.
? Why would I use the (arrrrggghhhh) original mac
keyboard?
You? Bob was the one who made the comment about repurposing the
original parts. Of course it's easier to mount the guts from a 9"
mono VGA in place of the guts of the original Mac and to rig up some
sort of wiring arrangement to attach a PS/2 keyboard to the VT-6
inside the case... that's not what was suggested. I was addressing
specific peculiarities of the Apple electronics.
? you can use a 12" monitor circuit with a
9" tube. Did I made it easier for
you? :o)
I can understand how that can be so, but I didn't assume it was true.
I certainly have never tried it (though now I might).
-ethan
5:59 p.m.
you can use a 12" monitor circuit with a 9"
tube. Did I made it easier for
you? :o)
I can understand how that can be so, but I didn't assume it was true.
I certainly have never tried it (though now I might).
Most of mono monitors are the same. Never had a different tube that I
couldn't exchange between boards (but you have to use the same yoke coil
from the board - you just swap the glass tube). I used
tubes from 5" to 12"
in the same board. All of then worked the same, with
retouches on the pots
(width, height, bright, so on)
3:07 a.m.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:44:56PM -0400, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I also have an unassembled PockeTerm. I was thinking of powering both
it and the VT6 _plus_ a 2-port KVM from the same +5VDC supply and
using the KVM for a session switch. ;-)
I was planning on getting a PocketTerm for my SBC6120 when I found out
about the VT6. Can you perhaps higlight some of the pros and cons with
the two different boards ?
I will probably make a custom version of the PocketTerm though, the
propeller chip looks kind of neat. My hopes is that I will be able to
interface it with the SBC6120 expansion port to simulate a front panel
(drawn on a VGA output), since I couldn't afford a real FP6120.
Honestly, I'm not sure I have the necessary skill to pull this of, but
it feels like fun challenge.
Cheers,
Pontus.
12:20 a.m.
Jay West wrote:
I'm holding out for the VT-5, I'd definitely
prefer that one :)
That could be a while ... I think Smart's Shoe Phone could could come out
sooner...
If I remember right, that had rotory dial too... no darn keypads to mess with...
Jay
Still with the right packaging and software,
that is nice terminal.
Ben.
9:43 a.m.
bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca] wrote:
The VT5 hardware is mostly done - the design has been set for a while, and
the PCB just needs a final turn.
The firmware is the limiting factor here, and poor James is working as
fast as he can. It _is_ an open source project, you guys, and he could use
help if anybody wants to speed it up.
http://vt4.sourceforge.net
Bob
Jay West wrote:
I'm holding out for the VT-5, I'd definitely prefer that one :)
That could be a while ...
12:21 a.m.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Ethan wrote...
I'll be building that one, too. ;-)
It's the only reason I didn't get two VT-6s.
I have enough real terminals that I don't mind having a few "dumb"
terminal boards with different features for different applications.
I happen to already have a couple of IOB6120s for my SBC6120s, so I
never really planned on mating a VT-* with mine, but I'll probably try
it out to see it work.
One plan I have is to run LCDproc with the curses driver - normally
used for debugging clients or for throwing up a simple display in the
corner of some other machine. In this case, I'd have a VGA display
and VT-* board some distance away from the host (by serial cable or by
short-haul fiber modems) as an easy-to-use remote status display.
-ethan
I just got my VT-6 partial kit today - time for me to start assembling it!
I'm holding out for the VT-5, I'd definitely prefer that one :) 
1:48 a.m.
Just curious... What is the VT-6 kit ?
Sergio
2009/5/28 Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:53 PM, bfranchuk at
jetnet.ab.ca
<bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
Now back to putting together my SPARE TIME GIZMOS
dumb terminal once I
print
out the online PDF manual.
I just got my VT-6 partial kit today - time for me to start assembling it!
-ethan
2:08 a.m.
SPC wrote:
Just curious... What is the VT-6 kit ?
Sergio
<jest>
It lets you replace your V-8 with a V-6 for powering your
dynamotor set up. You save petrol and the tubes last 25%
longer.
</jest>
Spare Time Gizmos is selling DEC VT-220 terminal emulator
kit. You have to supply a case, a wall wart, keyboard and a VGA
display, to have a low cost dumb terminal. Full details here.
http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/VT.htm
Ben.
PS, Spare time Gizmos still has the SCB6120 kit for sale:
a PDP 8 clone.
2:20 a.m.
Spare Time Gizmos is selling DEC VT-220 terminal
emulator
kit. You have to supply a case, a wall wart, keyboard and a VGA
display, to have a low cost dumb terminal. Full details here.
http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/VT.htm
PS, Spare time Gizmos still has the SCB6120 kit for sale:
a PDP 8 clone.
Hey, nice one! :oD
I have some of these micro-terminals here in Brazil. All of them are
(truly!) a PC-XT-like in a small board. They use the CHIPS xt-on-a-chip or a
80C188 and some video circuitry (Cirrus Logic 5426). I always get amazed
with the nice work from STG. Congratulations for them!
2:30 a.m.
Spare Time Gizmos is selling DEC VT-220 terminal
emulator
kit. You have to supply a case, a wall wart, keyboard and a VGA
display, to have a low cost dumb terminal. Full details here.
http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/VT.htm
Hmmm...I downloaded the V54.ZIP file with the docs, schematic, etc...and
it doesn't open on my machine...Any tips? It says "method unknown"?!?!
2:59 a.m.
Alexandre Souza wrote:
Hmmm...I downloaded the V54.ZIP file with the docs,
schematic,
etc...and it doesn't open on my machine...Any tips? It says "method
unknown"?!?!
New zip format default ... At least the PDF manual you still can read.
The big thing you need is a serial port ... once you build the kit,
you upload and flash in the software.
Ben.
3:44 a.m.
New zip format default ... At least the PDF manual
you still can read.
The big thing you need is a serial port ... once you build the kit,
you upload and flash in the software.
One more software to install on my bloated computer :( Anyone willing to
do me a favour and send me a rar copy of the package? :)
5:35 a.m.
On 28/05/2009 08:44, Alexandre Souza wrote:
If that format referred to is what I think it is, it's bzip2. It's not
zip encoding, but recent versions of WinZip handle it.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
New zip format
default ... At least the PDF manual you still can read.
The big thing you need is a serial port ... once you build the kit,
you upload and flash in the software.
One more software to install on my bloated computer :( Anyone willing
to do me a favour and send me a rar copy of the package? :)
9:36 a.m.
bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca wrote:
...
Dumb !!??!?! Who are you calling dumb ??? :-)
Not so dumb, really - the software team did a great job and the current
firmware does pretty much everything a real VT220 can do.
Bob
Just curious... What is the VT-6 kit ?
...
low cost dumb terminal ....
12:33 p.m.
Bob Armstrong wrote:
Not so dumb, really - the software team did a great
job and the current
firmware does pretty much everything a real VT220 can do.
So what can a real VT220 do ... runs and ducks.
All I can say somebody read the 'cheap video cookbook' .
I like the design, well thought out.
Bob
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