That trick hasn't worked in decades. You can still blue box in some area's but I wouldn't do it. drops a trouble card. Phone phreaking started to go away when the phone companies started to replace the old crossbar switching equipment with electronic switches and computer switching (ESS5, etc...) There are still a few area that you can still red box though. No matter what, its still called stealing. Brian. On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Gabe Steiger wrote: Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com