10 Jan
2008
10 Jan
'08
8:20 p.m.
I'm stumped. All I have to work with is a WinXP laptop
that doesn't boot off anything special in particular.
The CD drive yes, but that's about it. I once was able
to make bootable CD's w/early versions of Norton, but
I doubt that would work for a compact flash card.
I had thought I could "format/s" inside a dos box...no
dice.
even the "format" option arrived at by right clicking
doesn't allow you to create a bootable partition.
apparently "fdisk" doesn't exist in XP.
I don't even have my USB floppy drive handy. Not that
I would imagine DOS 6.22 would recognize a PCMCIA
slot.
Is there a way of running an *alien* DOS within XP. In
a DOS box in other words? No, I don't imagine so.
Whenever you click on a foreign command.com, you get a
"wrong version" message or something.
No I don't have the WinXP embedded resource kit
(there's a program called bootprep that allegedly
might help). I'm not trying to work with XP, just
utilize it to create a DOS-bootable device.
help
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11 Jan
11 Jan
3:03 a.m.
Chris M wrote:
I'm not trying to work with XP, just
utilize it to create a DOS-bootable device.
On what media? You never specified exactly what you were trying to make
bootable, just tossed out "usb floppy drive", "CD", "compact
flash",
etc. Could you be more specific?
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4:10 p.m.
the subject line wasn't descriptive enough?
--- Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> wrote:
Chris M wrote:
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I'm not trying to work with XP, just
utilize it to create a DOS-bootable device.
On what media? You never specified exactly what you
were trying to make
bootable, just tossed out "usb floppy drive", "CD",
"compact flash",
etc. Could you be more specific?
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12 Jan
12 Jan
1:15 p.m.
Chris M wrote:
the subject line wasn't descriptive enough?
No, because you didn't mention if you were trying to boot off of it in a
reader slot, or if you had it connected to a CF->IDE adapter, etc.
The IDE adapter will boot. The reader slot won't.
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11 Jan
11 Jan
7:09 a.m.
On 11/01/2008 01:20, Chris M wrote:
I'm stumped. All I have to work with is a WinXP
laptop
that doesn't boot off anything special in particular.
The CD drive yes, but that's about it. I once was able
to make bootable CD's w/early versions of Norton, but
I doubt that would work for a compact flash card.
You can't boot an OS from a CompactFlash card in a card reader slot.
You have to have it in an IDE-to-CF adapter (which is a simple passive
device, there's no electronics involved) connected to your HDD
controller, so the computer sees the CF card as an IDE drive. If you
set it up that way, then you should be able to format it as bootable.
You certainly can using Linux, and it should be possible using DOS
booted from a floppy. Of course, this might be problematic on a laptop!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
7:44 a.m.
On Jan 11, 2008 6:09 AM, Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com> wrote:
On 11/01/2008 01:20, Chris M wrote:
I'm playing around with a couple of CF to IDE adapters. So far I've gotten
several flavors of Linux, DOS, Win98 and WinXP booting off a 2gb CF card on
several different motherboards from AOpen, intel, Shuttle, Asus and Tyan. I
almost got a small RAID booting with a pair of CF adapters and cards
attached to an Adaptec 1200A IDE RAID card. I have a couple of old Dell and
Compaq laptops to try next.
James
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I'm stumped. All I have to work with is a
WinXP laptop
that doesn't boot off anything special in particular.
The CD drive yes, but that's about it. I once was able
to make bootable CD's w/early versions of Norton, but
I doubt that would work for a compact flash card.
You can't boot an OS from a CompactFlash card in a card reader slot.
You have to have it in an IDE-to-CF adapter (which is a simple passive
device, there's no electronics involved) connected to your HDD
controller, so the computer sees the CF card as an IDE drive. If you
set it up that way, then you should be able to format it as bootable.
You certainly can using Linux, and it should be possible using DOS
booted from a floppy. Of course, this might be problematic on a laptop!
4:12 p.m.
the computer in question, though I didn't mention it
specifically, can indeed boot off of a compact flash
card. I only mentioned the lt and all because that's
all I have to create (hopefully) the bootable card.
--- Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com> wrote:
On 11/01/2008 01:20, Chris M wrote:
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I'm stumped. All I have to work with is a
WinXP
laptop
that doesn't boot off anything special in
particular.
The CD drive yes, but that's about it. I once
was
able
to make bootable CD's w/early versions of
Norton,
but
I doubt that would work for a compact flash card.
You can't boot an OS from a CompactFlash card in a
card reader slot.
You have to have it in an IDE-to-CF adapter (which
is a simple passive
device, there's no electronics involved) connected
to your HDD
controller, so the computer sees the CF card as an
IDE drive. If you
set it up that way, then you should be able to
format it as bootable.
You certainly can using Linux, and it should be
possible using DOS
booted from a floppy. Of course, this might be
problematic on a laptop!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
12 Jan
12 Jan
7:59 p.m.
On 11/01/2008 21:12, Chris M wrote:
the computer in question, though I didn't mention
it
specifically, can indeed boot off of a compact flash
card. I only mentioned the lt and all because that's
all I have to create (hopefully) the bootable card.
That's unusual, but useful. You should be able to format it using fdisk
from something like a Knoppix CD. You probably could
even if the laptop
wasn't able to boot from the card slot, so long as you can
read and
write the card.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
29 Jan
29 Jan
12:51 p.m.
Chris,
Bootable thumb drives are now almost mainstream, and thus way OT for
this list. See the current issue of PC Mag (even more OT) for the
ultimate bootable thumb drive. A thumb drive is just a CF card
permanently mounted to a USB plug and many modern BIOS have settings to
boot many devices (floppy, CD, HD, etc.) from a USB port.
The step you seem to be missing is making the partition on the CFcard
active. Only an "active" partition will boot. AFAIK, this cannot be done
with the tools provided by XP but there are other partition programs
that will do it. (Your search engine is your friend.)
[Jay, this should take care of it.]
Jim
Chris M wrote:
the computer in question, though I didn't mention
it
specifically, can indeed boot off of a compact flash
card. I only mentioned the lt and all because that's
all I have to create (hopefully) the bootable card.
--- Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com> wrote:
On 11/01/2008 01:20, Chris M wrote:
____________________________________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs I'm stumped. All I have to work with is a
WinXP
laptop
that doesn't boot off anything special in
particular.
The CD drive yes, but that's about it. I once
was
able
to make bootable CD's w/early versions of
Norton,
but
I doubt that would work for a compact flash card.
You can't boot an OS from a CompactFlash card in a
card reader slot.
You have to have it in an IDE-to-CF adapter (which
is a simple passive
device, there's no electronics involved) connected
to your HDD
controller, so the computer sees the CF card as an
IDE drive. If you
set it up that way, then you should be able to
format it as bootable.
You certainly can using Linux, and it should be
possible using DOS
booted from a floppy. Of course, this might be
problematic on a laptop!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
8:49 a.m.
At 07:20 PM 1/10/2008, Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Is there a way of running an *alien* DOS within XP. In
a DOS box in other words? No, I don't imagine so.
It's not quite clear what you'd like to do in the long run, but
maybe try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOSBox , at http://www.dosbox.com/.
- John
12 Jan
12 Jan
12:37 a.m.
You could try a virtual pc...
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris M" <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
To: "talk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:20 PM
Subject: a tad OT: creating a bootable cflash card
I'm stumped. All I have to work with is a WinXP
laptop
that doesn't boot off anything special in particular.
The CD drive yes, but that's about it. I once was able
to make bootable CD's w/early versions of Norton, but
I doubt that would work for a compact flash card.
I had thought I could "format/s" inside a dos box...no
dice.
even the "format" option arrived at by right clicking
doesn't allow you to create a bootable partition.
apparently "fdisk" doesn't exist in XP.
I don't even have my USB floppy drive handy. Not that
I would imagine DOS 6.22 would recognize a PCMCIA
slot.
Is there a way of running an *alien* DOS within XP. In
a DOS box in other words? No, I don't imagine so.
Whenever you click on a foreign command.com, you get a
"wrong version" message or something.
No I don't have the WinXP embedded resource kit
(there's a program called bootprep that allegedly
might help). I'm not trying to work with XP, just
utilize it to create a DOS-bootable device.
help
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