28 Jul
2015
28 Jul
'15
3:11 p.m.
I received this email - they want am IBM AS/400 for a film - it doesn't have to work.
They will pay for transportation and rent.
Near Brooklyn NY I think.
Email Bianca below if interested.
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From: Bianca Siu Davies <biancasiudavies at
gmail.com>
It does not have to work, it would merely be set dressing for a film. If we could find
one by mid-August, that would be great! I'm in New York and I can organize the
shipping of it if need be.
Thanks so much!!
Bianca.
Bianca Siu Davies
>> Art Department Coordinator
>> THE WIZARD OF LIES
>> O: 646-863-7493
>> C: 415.420.8375
>>
29 Jul
29 Jul
2:09 p.m.
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Oldcomputers wrote:
I received this email - they want am IBM AS/400 for a
film - it doesn't
have to work. They will pay for transportation and rent.
Near Brooklyn NY I think.
And what will they pay for damage or destruction?
Always get more details - as others have said previously, film crews can
be quite destructive.
2:31 p.m.
Seems an odd request, definitely needs more detail, unless you know your computers they
were pretty bland to most observers.
To me there are three enclosure styles: the original monolithic white box, the later black
box with colour accents and the current generic POWER rack style - none jump out as
particularly photogenic. They came in many different sizes too, perhaps the greatest range
of enclosure sizes for any single family(at least for the OS/400 V3 era)?
They're really heavy too, heavy gauge steel was common. I see some of the
black-with-colour-accent machines on eBay, be cheaper to buy one of those, or at least the
plastic front skin.
Or they could just make a copy of an IBM logo and stick it onto a bar fridge or an
air-conditioner.
30 Jul
30 Jul
4:08 a.m.
I received
this email - they want am IBM AS/400 for a film - it
doesn't have to work. They will pay for transportation and rent. Near
Brooklyn NY I think.
And what will they pay for damage or destruction? 
7:28 a.m.
I'd think a ridiculously high deposit alone with the contract
would ensure proper use.
Simply state if it is damaged in any way, they keep the computer
and you keep the deposit.
I've done similar in the past and always got things back.
Dwight
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 07:08:59 -0400
From: evan at snarc.net
To: General at classiccmp.org; classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk at
classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: IBM AS/400 in NY for a film
MARCH is working on this deal, since metro NYC is our backyard.
For anyone interested: we always require a signed contract with strict
rules about how our artifacts can/can't be used by renters. In the past
few years we did most of the computers for "The Americans", "Halt &
Catch Fire", Apple/MSFT episode of "American Genius", and a major
Hollywood film that I can't reveal, along with several smaller deals. In
each case, the contract requires proof of their insurance; numerous
rules about transportation, storage, and (of course) actual usage; and
additional rules requiring MARCH delegates to on-site if anything needs
to be up and running. Everything from wrapping to power to proximity of
any open beverages is covered. Related: there are some artifacts we
won't rent at any price due to value/rarity/size/etc.
I
received this email - they want am IBM AS/400 for a film - it
doesn't have to work. They will pay for transportation and rent. Near
Brooklyn NY I think.
And what will they pay for damage or destruction? 
9:24 a.m.
I think it was someone on this list who told the story of some
antique furniture that was rented out with a ridicoulously high
deposit and got it back with bullet holes. Apparently the
deposit wasn't ridiculous enough with respect to the overall
budget of the film.
Evan: it would be interesting to read your contract. I've loaned
an IBM 5150 once with a contract I scribbled up myself.
the result: https://youtu.be/Zfcm2JL4Lnk
(spot the technical error)
/P
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 07:28:44AM -0700, dwight wrote:
I'd think a ridiculously high deposit alone with
the contract
would ensure proper use.
Simply state if it is damaged in any way, they keep the computer
and you keep the deposit.
I've done similar in the past and always got things back.
Dwight
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 07:08:59 -0400
From: evan at snarc.net
To: General at classiccmp.org; classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk at
classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: IBM AS/400 in NY for a film
MARCH is working on this deal, since metro NYC is our backyard.
For anyone interested: we always require a signed contract with strict
rules about how our artifacts can/can't be used by renters. In the past
few years we did most of the computers for "The Americans", "Halt &
Catch Fire", Apple/MSFT episode of "American Genius", and a major
Hollywood film that I can't reveal, along with several smaller deals. In
each case, the contract requires proof of their insurance; numerous
rules about transportation, storage, and (of course) actual usage; and
additional rules requiring MARCH delegates to on-site if anything needs
to be up and running. Everything from wrapping to power to proximity of
any open beverages is covered. Related: there are some artifacts we
won't rent at any price due to value/rarity/size/etc.
I
received this email - they want am IBM AS/400 for a film - it
doesn't have to work. They will pay for transportation and rent. Near
Brooklyn NY I think.
And what will they pay for damage or destruction?
9:53 a.m.
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
I think it was someone on this list who told the story
of some
antique furniture that was rented out with a ridicoulously high
deposit and got it back with bullet holes. Apparently the
deposit wasn't ridiculous enough with respect to the overall
budget of the film.
Actually, that problem is more likely to be lack of communication and not
giving a shit. The people making decisions at the time of filming
("here's what we need to do") might not even know how much the deposit
was (nor care). The high deposit might convey the need for care to the
people renting it, but that doesn't get through to OTHER people who are
the ones ending up using it.
Hence, set a deposit that is an amount that you would be glad to sell the
item for, and NEVER loan out something that you would not want to part
with.
29 Jul
29 Jul
2:12 p.m.
*Googles*
"THE WIZARD OF LIES"
Interesting. So Bernie Madoff used an AS/400? I've heard of them
turning up in some other dodgy places - like drug lord mansions in
Central America; apparently they were regarded as secure enough to do
their accounts!
Mike
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Oldcomputers <steve at oldcomputers.net> wrote:
I received this email - they want am IBM AS/400 for a
film - it doesn't have to work. They will pay for transportation and rent.
Near Brooklyn NY I think.
Email Bianca below if interested.
======================
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From: Bianca Siu Davies <biancasiudavies at
gmail.com>
It does not have to work, it would merely be set dressing for a film. If we could find
one by mid-August, that would be great! I'm in New York and I can organize the
shipping of it if need be.
Thanks so much!!
Bianca.
Bianca Siu Davies
>> Art Department Coordinator
>> THE WIZARD OF LIES
>> O: 646-863-7493
>> C: 415.420.8375
>>
3:18 p.m.
On 30 Jul 2015, at 7:12 am, Mike Ross <tmfdmike at
gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting. So Bernie Madoff used an AS/400?
ahh bingo! I found this comment on the Amazon book review:
"The description of the ancient 1988 IBM AS 400 and the terminals from a 1970's
spy film that were still cranking away on the 17th floor when Madoff went under is
priceless.?
If movie-makers are going for authenticity then they will want a white-box AS/400
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/rochester/images/overlay/4506VV…
3:36 p.m.
Aha ... I first saw the request and thought it was strange that a film
would be so specific but I guess the AS/400 they ran has attained some
notoriety of its own:
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh021609-printer01.html
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh111609-story05.html
I guess I've gotta give them credit for shooting for technical correctness
:O Too bad it's only "set dressing" and we don't get to see any snippets
of
an interactive session on screen.
Best,
Sean
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Nigel Williams <
nw at retrocomputingtasmania.com> wrote:
On 30 Jul 2015, at 7:12 am, Mike Ross
<tmfdmike at gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting. So Bernie Madoff used an AS/400?
ahh bingo! I found this comment on the Amazon book review:
"The description of the ancient 1988 IBM AS 400 and the terminals from a
1970's spy film that were still cranking away on the 17th floor when Madoff
went under is priceless.?
If movie-makers are going for authenticity then they will want a white-box
AS/400
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/rochester/images/overlay/4506VV…
4:03 p.m.
I got caught on this line of inquiry and found a neat article in FT that
also discusses a little bit the IT operations of BLMIS. They name check
Stratus as well as IBM ... it's too bad his character wasn't as good as his
taste in EDP equipment!
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/89542248-9821-11de-8d3d-00144feabdc0.html
Best,
Sean
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
Aha ... I first saw the request and thought it was
strange that a film
would be so specific but I guess the AS/400 they ran has attained some
notoriety of its own:
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh021609-printer01.html
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh111609-story05.html
I guess I've gotta give them credit for shooting for technical correctness
:O Too bad it's only "set dressing" and we don't get to see any
snippets of
an interactive session on screen.
Best,
Sean
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Nigel Williams <
nw at retrocomputingtasmania.com> wrote:
On 30 Jul 2015, at 7:12 am, Mike Ross
<tmfdmike at gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting. So Bernie Madoff used an AS/400?
ahh bingo! I found this comment on the Amazon book review:
"The description of the ancient 1988 IBM AS 400 and the terminals from a
1970's spy film that were still cranking away on the 17th floor when Madoff
went under is priceless.?
If movie-makers are going for authenticity then they will want a
white-box AS/400
https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/rochester/images/overlay/4506VV…
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