8 Jul
2000
8 Jul
'00
11:19 a.m.
I have another tech legend to be dicussed:
It is generally believed that the Apple Lisa is what spurred Bill Gates to
create Windows. But recently I have read something that says it was *not*
the Lisa that inspired Bill Gates, but that it was VisiCorp's VisiOn
software (remember that, yeah, me neither!). So my question is: Which one
was it? Was it Lisa or VisiOn?
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8 Jul
8 Jul
2:56 p.m.
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, David Vohs wrote:
It is generally believed that the Apple Lisa is what
spurred Bill Gates to
create Windows. But recently I have read something that says it was *not*
the Lisa that inspired Bill Gates, but that it was VisiCorp's VisiOn
software (remember that, yeah, me neither!). So my question is: Which one
was it? Was it Lisa or VisiOn?
VisiOn just lit a fire under his ass and made him worry that someone else
was going to capture the PC window OS market. However, from what I've
read, VisiOn did themselves in with a buggy product (I guess that only
works out if you're Microsoft, eh?)
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6:24 p.m.
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, David Vohs wrote:
There were a bunch of those software products (Desqview, TopView, etc.)
that came out about that time, too. As I recall, only Desqview was
considered particularly good, at least until Windows 3.1 came out...
It is generally believed that the Apple Lisa is
what spurred Bill Gates to
create Windows. But recently I have read something that says it was *not*
the Lisa that inspired Bill Gates, but that it was VisiCorp's VisiOn
software (remember that, yeah, me neither!). So my question is: Which one
was it? Was it Lisa or VisiOn?
VisiOn just lit a fire under his ass and made him worry that someone else
was going to capture the PC window OS market. However, from what I've
read, VisiOn did themselves in with a buggy product (I guess that only
works out if you're Microsoft, eh?) 
3:34 p.m.
VisiOn...Wow, haven't thought about that software for a while.
Anybody ever use it??....I remember it was a pig, requiring lots
of memory+CPU (8088 @ 4.77Mhz weren't going to cut it) and it
was the first package that required a mouse!
Back in 1985 I did get a chance to evaluate/use Microsoft Windows 1.0 and
Digital Research GEM (GEM was so much better!) A even better package for
multitasking was the original QuarterDeck DesQ (they later bastardized
down to a more popular lite version called DesQView). DesQ multitasked well
esp. on the original PC architecture.
Any know where I can find disk images for the software mentioned above?
Thanks,
Chandra
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From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of David Vohs
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 4:19 PM
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Subject: Another tech legend for discussion!
I have another tech legend to be dicussed:
It is generally believed that the Apple Lisa is what spurred Bill Gates to
create Windows. But recently I have read something that says it was *not*
the Lisa that inspired Bill Gates, but that it was VisiCorp's VisiOn
software (remember that, yeah, me neither!). So my question is: Which one
was it? Was it Lisa or VisiOn?
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2:59 p.m.
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Chandra Bajpai wrote:
VisiOn...Wow, haven't thought about that software
for a while.
Anybody ever use it??....I remember it was a pig, requiring lots
of memory+CPU (8088 @ 4.77Mhz weren't going to cut it) and it
was the first package that required a mouse!
Never used it but I have the original package in my archive. I also have,
in the original packaging, the MousePaint system from VisiCorp that came
with the Mouse Systems mouse.
Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Looking for a six in a pile of nines...
VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1
San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California
See http://www.vintage.org for details!
4:37 p.m.
To download GEM,
http://www.deltasoft.com
http://deltasoft.fife.wa.us/cpm/archive/unofficial/gemworld.html
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Screen/1184/
http://www.seasip.demon.co.uk/Gem/gengem.html .
I agree, in 1986 I bought GEM and Windows 1.1 (Tandy Version) for my
wife (at that time) to use on our Tandy 1000 based network at our
office. Because the girl couldn't remember a text command for longer
than 2 minutes, it was a lot easier to give her icons to pint and click
than to answer phone calls constantly. Win 1.x was a joke, but GEM
performed flawlessly until 1993 when we retired the old systems and
moved to 486's and Win3.11.
James
Chandra Bajpai wrote:
VisiOn...Wow, haven't thought about that software for a while.
Anybody ever use it??....I remember it was a pig, requiring lots
of memory+CPU (8088 @ 4.77Mhz weren't going to cut it) and it
was the first package that required a mouse!
Back in 1985 I did get a chance to evaluate/use Microsoft Windows 1.0 and
Digital Research GEM (GEM was so much better!) A even better package for
multitasking was the original QuarterDeck DesQ (they later bastardized
down to a more popular lite version called DesQView). DesQ multitasked well
esp. on the original PC architecture.
Any know where I can find disk images for the software mentioned above?
Thanks,
Chandra
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of David Vohs
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 4:19 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Another tech legend for discussion!
I have another tech legend to be dicussed:
It is generally believed that the Apple Lisa is what spurred Bill Gates to
create Windows. But recently I have read something that says it was *not*
the Lisa that inspired Bill Gates, but that it was VisiCorp's VisiOn
software (remember that, yeah, me neither!). So my question is: Which one
was it? Was it Lisa or VisiOn?
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9 Jul
9 Jul
1:01 p.m.
"David Vohs" <netsurfer_x1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
It is generally believed that the Apple Lisa is what
spurred Bill Gates to
create Windows. But recently I have read something that says it was *not*
the Lisa that inspired Bill Gates, but that it was VisiCorp's VisiOn
software (remember that, yeah, me neither!). So my question is: Which one
was it? Was it Lisa or VisiOn?
What makes you think that it had to be one or the other exclusively?
As with most things, it probably was a combination of those factors and
several others.
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