Well, Intergraph still makes computers, they're just PCs.. But you guys missed Concurrent, the descendant of Interdata and Perkin-Elmer, who specializes in Video On Demand solutions.. they also bought Harris's computer division, for the nighthawk. I think MODCOMP is still around in some form also.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail