On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Dwight Elvey wrote: For manuals try www.usimperio.com. I deal with these folks regularly (they're local to me) and they're very well-stocked. Tek manuals aren't cheap, though... -Dave McGuire

Rumor has it that wpe101(a)banet.net may have mentioned these words: [snippage of free stuff...] Holey, macaroni... talk about free 'scope nite... I have 3 (count 'em, 3) HP1741A's (or was that 1714A) known "un-good"... tho I have powered them up, and from my limited surveying seem to have different faults so you'd prolly be able to get one (maybe two) good working scopes out of them. I do remember that 1 or 2 tubes are good, AFAICT. No probes with them... sorry. I got them when the local university was having their "garage sale" and they had just unloaded these off the truck... I said "how much ya want" and, expecting $50+ per, they said "dunno." I said "do they work?" They said "dunno." I said "$5 each?" They said "Sure." They're in decent shape other than the fact they don't work. Clean inside and out, from what I saw of the innards. I'm easily willing to eat the $5 per without heartburn, someone getting these who might bring 'em back to life is payment enough for that. However, reimbursement in shipping is necessary... If ya wan't 'em fast, it'll cost ya - they've got handles, but that's a misnomer. They're *really* heavy. If you don't mind a "slow-boat-to-China" approach and are willing to meet a trucker at a truckstop on a moment's notice (or if you have a rig-accessable drop-off point near an interstate highway), my dad is a trucker. I could box them up for outdoorsey storage and the next time my dad has a load to wherever you are (he trucks the whole US) he can call you and meet at a truckstop to win your prize. Warning: There is *no* guarantee when he'll get thru a particular "neck of the woods" so it could take upwards of a year to get them delivered. But it would be *really* cheap... my dad would prolly gratis the shipping end of things if I made the box[es] rugged enough and so it doesn't take up much room on the flatbed, and the box[es] itself would entail $10-$20 worth of materials, so a "donation" along those lines would be appreciated. Why so generous ;-)? 3 weeks after I got 'em, a friend of mine was selling a Tek fribblemumble (I think... I don't remember numbers well -- 50Mhz, dual trigger, with 1 probe) for $200. *Great* scope for the $$$. He was looking to buy something faster... until he saw the price of new 200Mhz scopes. (He didn't look until after he sold it... Did I take advantage of him? Nah - I told him he can borrow it whenever he wants... ;-) I also found him a "like new" 250Mhz scope for sale on Haggle.com for around $400, but he didn't jump. I did hope to use the Tek to fix the HP's, but that was *really* low on my priority list. HTH, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

At 12:07 AM 11/24/99 +0000, Tony wrote: I agree with Tony. Fix it. A 465 is still a fine scope by any standard. I think I have a service manual for it too. Joe

Well, I gotta admit part of it has to do with seeing how small the newer scopes are! You know, smaller testgear means more room for bigger computers. Especially when it looks like I could tuck a TDS210 Oscope looks like it would fit inside some of the free space under the drives on my PDP-11/44 :^) OK, on a serious note, one of the things I'm looking at, is it a better investement to go out and get manuals and probes, as well as possibily get the scope fixed, or just pick up a new one or a good used one that is all there from a reputable dealer (as opposed to a swap meet). Zane PS I suppose I deserve the DEC Head crack after that HP comment :^)