17 Mar
1998
17 Mar
'98
8:45 p.m.
At 12:48 PM 3/17/98 -0600, you wrote:
be asked again - What are the top ten hotspots for
finding old
equipment?
In no particular order:
Friends and Family (and the companies they work for)
Thrift shops
Garage Sales
Dumpsters
Surplus dealers
Internet (this list, especially)
hamfests/swapmeets/fleamarkets
classified ads
typewriter/office equipment repair businesses
Okay, that's only nine. Sorry.
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18 Mar
18 Mar
4:41 a.m.
At 01:45 AM 3/18/98 -0600, you wrote:
At 12:48 PM 3/17/98 -0600, you wrote:
Add government auctions, that makes ten. I've found some great stuff at
auctions.
Joe
be asked again - What are the top ten hotspots
for finding old
equipment?
In no particular order:
Friends and Family (and the companies they work for)
Thrift shops
Garage Sales
Dumpsters
Surplus dealers
Internet (this list, especially)
hamfests/swapmeets/fleamarkets
classified ads
typewriter/office equipment repair businesses
Okay, that's only nine. Sorry. 
6:41 a.m.
New subject: Symbolics 3650..
Hello to the Classic Computing List -- this is my first post and I am very
glad to have found your group.
Question - I very recently obtained a Symbolics 3650 lisp machine -- along
with six large boxes of associated 'stuff'. With luck, I hope to get this
beast back to life -- it apparently worked prior to being shipped to me (by
truck) but I obviously expect some problems. Does anyone on the List have
any experience or have any available spare parts or documentation -- or,
most important, actual experience with Symbolics lisp machines???
My own personal background -- 25-years programming in Lisp with, oddly,
none whatsoever with *real* lisp machines. I started with Lisp 1.5 on the
Univac 1108 back in 1971 and have worked with the usual variants ever since
-- Common Lisp(s), other 1.5's, etc. I am slowly building an 'Ancient Lisp'
web page (http//www.bs2000.com/talos/7090.htm is the beginning) that will,
hopefully, document as fully as possible the earliest days (1956-1963) of
Lisp with McCarthy and the other pioneers. The page is, at the moment, a
description of the IBM 7090 series of mainframes (709 too) which is where
Lisp was first born/evolved.
BTW -- The Symbolics 3650 is fairly large box -- 3' tall, 1.5' wide, 4'
deep (about) -- the thing weights several hundred pounds.
Regards -- and I certainly appreciate any feedback.
Jack
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[Symbolics 3650]
Was that the LISPMs that lived at MIT?
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5:22 a.m.
New subject: Symbolics 3650..
At 10:03 3/18/98 -0800, you wrote:
[Symbolics 3650]
Was that the LISPMs that lived at MIT?
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No -- I don't think so -- at least at the beginning.
My understanding is that the original Lisp Machine was designed and built
by Tom Knight at MIT back in about 1977 or so as part of his, I think,
Master's thesis. 'LMI' (Lisp Machines, Inc.) was incorporated to actually
produce the things -- Symbolics, Inc. was formed a bit later. Richard
Greenblatt also worked on the original machine (called, as I remember,
'Cadr') and went with LMI. David Moon and a horde of other MIT Lisp hackers
went with Symbolics.
Everything went belly-up about 10-years ago when Lisp on standard boxes
(Suns, et. al.) became fast enough to compete with the specialized
microcoded hardware found in the Lisp Machines -- which were also quite
expensive.
I am going from memory on this -- dates etc may vary...
Regards
Jack
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5:24 a.m.
New subject: Symbolics 3650..
At 11:01 3/18/98 -0800, you wrote:
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I have been looking for a Symbolics machine to *try* to coax back to life
for a long time -- finally found this one for the cost of shipping. Very
glad to have the guy.
BTW -- Thank's for the welcome to the Group...
Regards
Jack
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Question - I
very recently obtained a Symbolics 3650 lisp machine -- along
with six large boxes of associated 'stuff'. With luck, I hope to get this
beast back to life -- it apparently worked prior to being shipped to me (by
truck) but I obviously expect some problems. Does anyone on the List have
Congratulations! I wish I could be of some help -- I recently passed
up the chance to take home a Symbolics 3670, and I -really- wish I had,
because I think it ended up getting scrapped. *sob!*
Unfortunately, I can't give any good specifics about this machine, since
I've never worked with one. But I'm looking forward to hearing from
you as you go through the process of getting it up and running. Keep
us posted on your progress!
Slowly but surely...
>
>> I am slowly building an 'Ancient Lisp'
>> web page (http//www.bs2000.com/talos/7090.htm is the beginning) that will,
>> hopefully, document as fully as possible the earliest days (1956-1963) of
>> Lisp with McCarthy and the other pioneers. The page is, at the moment, a
>
>Excellent work! Thanks for pointing it out to us. I'm looking forward
>to reading it as it gets going :)
>
>-Seth
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5:29 a.m.
New subject: Symbolics 3650..
At 16:16 3/18/98, you wrote:
Haw -- It lives, believe it or not in my office. I live in the Rocky
Mountains (7800' elevation) so it will hopefully keep me warm when I get it
powered up.
Regarding my wife -- I also restore vintage vacuum tube radio gear
(transmitters & receivers circa 1955-1965) and have a number of nice pieces
that I have saved from the dumpster and brought back to life (photo at
httm//www.bs2000.com/talos/vintage.htm if interested) so my wife has
learned (I think/hope) to live with at least some of my foibles...
Jack,
Welcome to the list.
Thank You..
BTW -- The Symbolics 3650 is fairly large box -- 3' tall, 1.5' wide, 4'
deep (about) -- the thing weights several hundred pounds.
Ohhh! I'll bet your wife will *love* that!
Joe
Regards
Jack
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