Dave McGuire wrote: If you have a serial card (like the apple super serial card) you can boot the machine over serial and image over a boot disk to use later. look for ADT in the various versions. Here's one for that handles other prodos devices too: http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/ In short, you hook up another computer to the serial card. you enter IN#2 so that you can control the machine over serial, then you send a text file with the ADT apple app over which enters itself in hex in the apple debugger. Note: this can also be done over an audio link as if you were a cassette loader. I've not tried this. The serial version has worked well for me. -- Tim Riker - http://Rikers.org/ - TimR at Debian.org Embedded Linux Technologist - http://eLinux.org/ BZFlag maintainer - http://BZFlag.org/ - for fun!